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AP IMPACT: Thousands killed by US's Korean ally
The Associated Press ^ | May 18,2008 | CHARLES J. HANLEY and JAE-SOON CHANG

Posted on 05/30/2008 2:32:35 AM PDT by zhcn

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The Kwangju Massacre in South Korea http://www.democracynow.org/2005/5/18/25_years_ago_the_kwangju_massacre

Korean Students Blame U.S. For 1980 Massacre Of 2000 Students http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/55a/182.html

S. Korean survivors tell of 1980 Gwangju massacre http://www.workers.org/2005/world/gwangju-0526/

Kwangju still an issue in U.S.-South Korea relationship http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/korea/story/kwangju/

1 posted on 05/30/2008 2:32:35 AM PDT by zhcn
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To: zhcn

How many people did the Chicom and NK regimes massacre during this period?


2 posted on 05/30/2008 2:35:25 AM PDT by iowamark
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Wow! Alleged crimes from 1950, when the Republic of Korea was being invaded by the DPRK (aka North Korea)and YOUR country, and you conveniently post about it. How much does that pay?


3 posted on 05/30/2008 2:36:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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NOt to mention the North Korean bloody butchers???


4 posted on 05/30/2008 2:41:56 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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When will you provide a comparison with the absolutely staggering numbers killed by the ruthless N. Korean and ChiCom invaders? NOT excusing any particular atrocity by South Koreans but the depravity of North Korean and ChiCom invaders was endless and continues to the present day (HUGE contrast with South Korea).... would also like to see you review all of the massacres and famines conducted by the ChiCom totalitarian thugs over the past 70+ years. When you are finished tallying up all of the millions and millions of innocent lives they have destroyed, then we can talk about South Korea. Oh, and let’s be sure to talk about Tiananmen Square and so many other massacres by the ChiComs.


5 posted on 05/30/2008 2:48:58 AM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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Good Bye Chicom troll.


6 posted on 05/30/2008 2:49:18 AM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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The Chinese and North Koreans (with Russian equipment and aid) murdered hundreds of thousands of Koreans. The Chinese murdered 60,000,000 of their own people and are still ROUTINELY murdering people now.

Chicoms blow.


7 posted on 05/30/2008 2:55:30 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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Note that the article uncritically cites a NORTH Korean army report as a source. NKPD and Chinese communist forces routinely slaughtered anyone remotely suspected of political unreliability as well as associates, friends, and family members of South Korean officials and soldiers. The employees of the US embassy, left behind in the initial panicked retreat, were massacred almost to a person. These communist atrocities, barely mentioned in the article, were documented by various UN agencies, the International Red Cross, and the press of some 35 countries. All this is extensively discussed in many histories of the war, all, in fact, except those authored by communist propaganda mills or their agents of influence. See This Kind of War by TR Fehrenbach (published in 1963).

Contrary to the inferences invited in this article, its revelations are nothing new. Fehrenbach mentions many examples of South Korean brutality, always keeping it in perspective against the holocaust routinely perpetrated by advancing communists, and specifically mentions the massacre at Daejon. It is interesting that the article fails to mention an even more horrific event, the premature demolition of the Han River bridges by ROK forces right after the communist onslaught. The explosives killed thousands on the bridges themselves and trapped hundreds of thousands of government troops, their families, and pro-government civilians north of the river, where they soon fell into the open arms of their countrymen from the north. Very few were ever seen again.

Isn't it interesting that this is used in South Korea to demonize the US when Koreans themselves were indisputably the perpetrators?

8 posted on 05/30/2008 2:58:52 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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In my opinion, there are many more leftists around the world that need killing.

Ya know, it seems to be a never-ending job and we seem to keep falling further and further behind.


9 posted on 05/30/2008 3:03:31 AM PDT by x1stcav (McCain for President. Or we're <i>really</i> screwed.)
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Yeah, well, hard to say much about that, since Jimmy Carter was at the helm of the nation at that time, and he’s widely stated on this forum as being the worst president ever, just another milestone for the history books - oh, wait, keep forgetting that they skip his poor decisions.

However, trying to make your point by directing people to communist websites well known for their propaganda bias does nothing for your ‘cause’ in making the post.

The interesting part though is the suggestion that the US is somehow to blame for all of this, that the 40,000 US troops at the DMZ should have done something about it. Aside from the obvious - they’re stationed at the DMZ to prevent North Korea from invading again, who absolutely would have taken advantage of any major chaos in the south, how would 40,000 troops take on over 80,000 troops? Especially considering the amount of defenses oriented right towards where the US troops would be coming from...

So, please, spare us the propaganda, it’s not our problem, never was our problem, though if someone other than Jimmy Carter was at the helm, far stronger opinions would have come from the US about the coup. But, well, it’s /always/ far easier to blame someone on the other side of the world, as it plays right into the propaganda aims of some.


10 posted on 05/30/2008 3:11:07 AM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: zhcn; 2ndDivisionVet; Freedom'sWorthIt; SolidWood; vladimir998; x1stcav; iowamark

Btw, every ill-informed, ungrateful, America-hating commie- kool-aid drinker on the Korean peninsula is hereby invited to kiss my royal Scottish arse.

(With a hat-tip to that great American firefighter Mike Moran, who famously extended an Irish version of this invitation to Osama bin Laden just after 9-11.)


11 posted on 05/30/2008 3:19:47 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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Those people would still be alive if the Communist had not marched south.


12 posted on 05/30/2008 3:23:44 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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LOL


13 posted on 05/30/2008 3:24:17 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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"The roots of the summer 1950 bloodbath lie in the U.S.-Soviet division of Japan's former Korea colony in 1945, which precipitated north-south turmoil and eventual war."
See we, the US, we were just as bad, equal to the Soviets, and if only we let them have all of Korea, it wouldn't of happened, so actually, it was our fault, this and the whole war.

"In the late 1940s, President Syngman Rhee's U.S.-installed rightist regime crushed leftist political activity in South Korea,..." Oh! They were just like, Democrats, or something. You know, vote drives, political 'activity'. That kind of thing. Spy? Assassins, saboteurs? Nah. Not one!.. including a guerrilla uprising..Oh, yeah. A war, a civil war against communist. We forgot to mention that. Context, it be hard..... inspired.. Inspired. How exciting! Who could be against inspiration? .. by the communists ruling the north "ruling the north" Like kind of vague, eh? Like maybe they were freely elected or something. We'll just gloss over that and use a passive, vague word. Calling Dr. Orwell, clean up at AP!

14 posted on 05/30/2008 3:25:43 AM PDT by Leisler
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Dittos! The Russian communists killed 40-100 million people in purges and the Chinese outdid THAT! The only good communist is a dead one. Summary execution of the bastards would serve as a lesson to liberals.


15 posted on 05/30/2008 3:36:05 AM PDT by Nucluside
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It really doesn’t matter. We (free ‘western’ countries) are supposed to be better than that.


16 posted on 05/30/2008 3:36:40 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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Shakey sources and a lack of perspective carefully avoided. Interesing post there, newbie.

Is that YOU, Alan Alda??


17 posted on 05/30/2008 3:43:07 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I didn't leave the republicans, they left me.)
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Hey look another little chicom troll. You guys are like the mindless zerg drones in starcraft. BTW you red commie flag is ugly and the CCP//PRC is disgusting.


18 posted on 05/30/2008 3:53:58 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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Political prisoners?
That means that they were commies and sympathizers.
Move along, nothing to see here.


19 posted on 05/30/2008 3:54:10 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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Please don't call you a Chicom?

... that's what you are zhen.

Look in the mirror ... see?


Yep you're a Chicom.


ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

20 posted on 05/30/2008 3:55:27 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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