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To: gleeaikin
The speaker said that cap-and-trade was good for the big boys, bad for the people. He preferred Carbon Credits (I think I am remembering this correctly) which he said would enable less energy/polution efficient companies to pay others to be cleaner, while making net carbon be improved.

Carbon credits only come about when there is a cap. They are what is traded in a cap and trade system. If you read any of these Senate bills, you will find that any trading system involves a huge government bureaucracy to adminster the trades and to enforce the caps. And all of this to try to control greehnouse gases that are not proven to have any meaningful impact on climate change. The government grows. The traders get rich. The U.S. is subjected to international oversight. U.S. business are hog-tied. The U.S. economy goes in the tanker. The environmentalists and globalists accomplish the largest wealth distribution scheme ever conceived by man. There is nothing good about cap-and-trade.

9 posted on 05/28/2008 10:36:17 PM PDT by calcowgirl (Schwarzenegger and McCain are trying to castrate the elephant)
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To: calcowgirl
Nope. And guess who bears all of the expenses in a cap and trade scheme? Average people. Its those kind of costs that led to massive Labour Party losses in the UK in local elections earlier this month. A lot of people are seeing the "Green Agenda" is by no means as benign as its proponents make it out to be.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 05/28/2008 10:54:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
Its really a scheme to transfer wealth from the have nots to those who have plenty of it. Its the exact reverse of everything that used to be championed by leftist philosophy for centuries. And its enormously unpopular. The Democrats and Republicans who champion this - if they get it implemented - they will find out how the public feels about having their income confiscated to benefit Wall Street investors who don't need the money. Its Robin Hood in reverse.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 05/28/2008 10:57:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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