Hailey voters again pass marijuana initiatives

Associated Press ^ | May 28, 2008 | AP

[BlazingArizona]

Voters last November passed the same three initiatives, but city officials balked at recognizing them.

We once had the same problem in Arizona: the people would pass propositions, while the Legislature would selectively ignore propositions the powers-that-be didn't care for. Several of these did involve the drug war.

Then we passed a proposition making it illegal to ignore passed propositions.

[GLDNGUN]

I'm comfortable in telling you what has happened in one of the most liberal counties in the country. The most liberal pot laws in the nation were put into effect and the result has been as described. And now, the liberal residents of this hippie county are about to tell the dope growers to take a hike. At least, that's what I believe and hope will happen. As a social experiment in relaxing drug laws it has been a disaster in every way imaginable.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[tacticalogic]

Not much on answering the question that was asked, are you?

[GLDNGUN]

My post was in response to the citizens passing these initiatives. I think they are liberal wackos (which they are). My post was not about the federal government, despite the efforts of you and others to make it so.

Once again, my post is about what an absolute disaster the most liberal pot laws in the country have been and even the liberals who passed the laws in the first place have had enough. But feel free to continue ignoring REALITY, as it is evidently an "inconvenient truth" for you.

[ReignOfError]

Have a lot of hippies (or libertarians, or hippie libertarians) migrated to rural Idaho ?

Hailey is a pretty small town, but I'd hardly call it rural. It's 11 miles from Sun Valley, and is growing pretty fast as that area gets more expensive.

[tacticalogic]

Once again, my post is about what an absolute disaster the most liberal pot laws in the country have been and even the liberals who passed the laws in the first place have had enough. But feel free to continue ignoring REALITY, as it is evidently an "inconvenient truth" for you.

Somewhere between that and John Walters telling us that even allowing the sale of industrial hemp fiber would be TEOTWAWKI is reason. That's the truth. Convenience is irrelevant.

[GLDNGUN]

Somewhere between that and John Walters telling us that even allowing the sale of industrial hemp fiber would be TEOTWAWKI is reason. That's the truth. Convenience is irrelevant.

Perhaps if I was stoned that would mean something. Once again, the most liberal pot laws in the country have been a DISASTER are hopefully about to be overturned, although it will only be a start.

[tacticalogic]

Once again, the most liberal pot laws in the country have been a DISASTER are hopefully about to be overturned, although it will only be a start.

You keep right on telling yourself that's all that matters.

[GLDNGUN]

You keep right on telling yourself that's all that matters.

I'm sorry you utterly failed to make this about the federal government. The Hailey initiatives are in violation of STATE law. Another "inconvenient truth" you chose to ignore. Not that dopeheads let silly things like the LAW get in their way.

[tacticalogic]

Would you be all twisted up about this if it was a local CCW initiative that was in conflict with state law?

[traviskicks]

Voters last November passed the same three initiatives, but city officials balked at recognizing them.

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[jmc813]

The county has been virtually overrun by dope growers and drug dealers. They have moved there to run major pot growing operations, bringing their guns, vicious dogs, and environmental destruction with them.

...and those colored jazz musicians are having sex with our daughters.

[Paradox]

Truth is these days, marijuana use already IS a low priority thing for LEO, at least in most major cities. Hardly anybody gets busted JUST for having some pot on them (personal use anyways).

I know a kid who was cought RED HANDED with a rather large stash of pot. He was taken into the police station, but was simply released to his parents (who promptly whooped his ass, at least, um, or so I heard)..

[ellery]

It’s a little more complicated than the story cares to detail. The only one of the three provisions that is really under the purview of the Hailey city government is the one on de-prioritizing enforcement of the hemp laws. The others really aren’t within the jurisdiction of the city and hence must be regarded as advisory only. It isn’t that the city government has been “ignoring” them, it’s that it isn’t empowered to do anything about them.

I can see that. On the other hand, when governments want to do something, they don't seem to let their lack of legal power/jurisdiction stop them. It seems that they only recognize the limits on their own power when we the people ask them to do something they don't want to do.

[GLDNGUN]

I’m simply stating the facts. I understand that REALITY is something very difficult for people to handle. Unfortunately, you won’t find it at the bottom of a bong.

[GLDNGUN]

Would you be all twisted up about this if it was a local CCW initiative that was in conflict with state law?

If they were handing guns and control of the county over to a criminal enterprise, you better believe I'd speak up.

[tacticalogic]

If they were handing guns and control of the county over to a criminal enterprise, you better believe I'd speak up.

If they're in conflict with state law, wouldn't they automatically be a criminal enterprise?

[GLDNGUN]

If they're in conflict with state law, wouldn't they automatically be a criminal enterprise?

Might be. Especially if they were a drug cartel.

[tacticalogic]

Might be. Especially if they were a drug cartel.

Is it about THE LAW, or is it about the drugs? If it is about the law, then there is no "might be". If they're in conflict with state law, they've broken the law and they're criminals - it doesn't matter if it about drugs or firearms.

[GLDNGUN]

Ok, then by your definition, they are a criminal enterprise and should not allowed to grow dope and sell drugs. Glad we agree.