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Woman's Waking After Brain Death Raises Many Questions About Organ Donation
LifeSiteNews ^ | 5/27/08 | Hilary White

Posted on 05/28/2008 2:45:44 PM PDT by wagglebee

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"Those donors are known not to be brain dead but are usually first in a coma and the doctor decides treatment is futile."

The culture of deaths considers actual death to be a formality.

1 posted on 05/28/2008 2:45:46 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 05/28/2008 2:46:18 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 05/28/2008 2:47:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Woman's Waking After Brain Death


4 posted on 05/28/2008 2:48:10 PM PDT by steve-b (The "intelligent design" hoax is not merely anti-science; it is anti-civilization. --John Derbyshire)
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5 posted on 05/28/2008 2:51:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Wonder what kind of recovery and quality of life she can expect?


6 posted on 05/28/2008 2:54:47 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: wagglebee

My personal opinion, but under no circumstance sign an organ card. The brain knows what’s occurring after what doctrors now call ‘death’ and they start to cut. This woman’s experience should (but won’t)-—wait,

Why doesn’t a pro-life lawyer file a suit in Federal court immediately to stop all organ harvesting until a case can be heard—based on this woman’s and others experiences—that the new medical definition of when they can start cutting is cruel and unusual punishment, or many other legal reasons to stop the procedures before an adequate amount of time goes by.


7 posted on 05/28/2008 2:55:36 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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“Those donors are known not to be brain dead but are usually first in a coma and the doctor decides treatment is futile.”

And they wonder why more people don’t check off the organ donor consent on their driver’s licences.


8 posted on 05/28/2008 3:04:33 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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I just finished watching a show about a young women who came back to life after being clinically brain dead for over a month. Unfortunately there are many people who don't ever get another chance at life because their families usually pull the plug sooner than thirty days. I believe the brain is a complicated organ that still holds many secrets. Doctors shouldn't be so quick to give the family the option of pulling the plug.
9 posted on 05/28/2008 3:05:58 PM PDT by peeps36 (Politician = Corrupt Degenerate Loser = Ted, Nancy, Barry, Jack and Many More)
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To: wagglebee

I heard this on the news the other day - absolutely incredible as rigor mortis had supposedly set in.

The article raises some serious concerns especially regarding those in car accidents and such as they pointed out. I’m sure there’s not a doctor out there who would’ve considered it even a remote possibility that this woman would EVER wake up - and here she is, not only breathing, and heart beating, but alert, and SPEAKING!

The woman herself gives all the glory to God. In the interview I saw she said, “I must have some more to do here”.


10 posted on 05/28/2008 3:19:53 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Actually I saw the woman on a news broadcast. She was fully alert, totally conscious and was able to carry out an interview. I have no idea what condition her heart is in regarding walking, etc... but there was no indication during the interview that she was disabled, or anything like that...


11 posted on 05/28/2008 3:21:35 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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My personal opinion, but under no circumstance sign an organ card.

My personal opinion, under no circumstances should those who refuse to sigh an Organ Donor Card be permitted to receive donated organs.

12 posted on 05/28/2008 3:23:40 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Winged Hussar

What bothers me when I read stories like this is that my mom got a Kidney from a young 18-year-old girl who was apparently in a motorcycle accident. The donation of her organs gave my mom an extra ten years of life, and saved numerous others as well...

I just hope to God that the young woman who died was really “dead” and not just considered “hopeless”... I mean I’m glad my Mom got the transplant, but man... Knowing these things makes it a lot harder for me to check that box as you said. I’d have no problem donating organs after I was done with them - seems some of these donors might not be nowadays... THAT is just scary!


13 posted on 05/28/2008 3:25:45 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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An attempt was made to lower her body temperature but her heart stopped three times causing doctors to estimate that her chance of survival was less than 10 per cent.

Based on this comment, I doubt that she truly ever went into rigor mortis. She was just really cold!

14 posted on 05/28/2008 3:28:03 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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My personal opinion, under no circumstances should those who refuse to sigh an Organ Donor Card be permitted to receive donated organs.

IMO, that's a dumb comment because if a person is sick enough to need any kind of organ transplant (except corneas), their organs aren't healthy enough to donate anyway.

15 posted on 05/28/2008 3:29:37 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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Fair solution.


16 posted on 05/28/2008 3:30:40 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Wonder what kind of recovery and quality of life she can expect?

Did you watch the video -

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=zbaiC9N6bGU&feature=user

No sign of brain damage..."brain dead" is a new criteria that was latched upon as a way to get families to pull the plug so they could harvest the organs (BIG cash cow for hospitals) while the person is still alive - understand that - STILL ALIVE. That means the heart is still beating and the organs are still then viable.

The criteria for death used to be when the heart stops beating. But then the organs deterioate rapidly, making it harder to 'harvest' - how I hate that description.

=A Living Will will not protect from this. the will to have is a "WILL TO LIVE" =

http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/willtolive/index.html.

If they know they cannotk, under any circumstances, 'harvest' you - they may spend put that time and energy into saving your life.

You think they wouldn't be this callous? We are talking about a profession that has no qualms about killing full time babies in 'partial birth abortion' - harvesting organs is a cake walk compared to that.

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17 posted on 05/28/2008 3:36:10 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: wagglebee
video

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=zbaiC9N6bGU&feature=user
Will to Live

http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/willtolive/index.html

18 posted on 05/28/2008 3:36:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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may a time I have had to explain to my legal collegues that a living will CAN state “KEEP ME ALIVE”, and/or “I will fight to live”.

Too often living wills are confused with a suicide note.


19 posted on 05/28/2008 3:43:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Tamar1973

“IMO, that’s a dumb comment because if a person is sick enough to need any kind of organ transplant (except corneas), their organs aren’t healthy enough to donate anyway.”

You might want to think a little more. People aren’t asked to sign donor cards when they’re sick. They’re asked — and agree or refuse — long before that.

And I would agree that anybody who won’t agree to donate should also agree not to receive a donation. If you fear that donating might make you a victim of the “culture of death,” accepting an organ would be no better.


20 posted on 05/28/2008 3:43:50 PM PDT by gracesdad
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