Posted on 05/28/2008 8:21:52 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
Here are the enlistment records of Charles W. Payne, brother of Madelyn Payne, great uncle of Obama:
Charles W. Payne, born 1924, enlisted 10 Nov '42, Navy, 6293977 REgistered, order #12019, Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., Board #4
So, Obama's great uncle liberated Buchenwald from his ship somewhere in the Pacific?
(Excerpt) Read more at answers.yahoo.com ...
Oh get real.
By that reasoning, a PFC draftee who spent his entire career at a training base in Mississippi helped raise the flag on Iwo Jima.
Or that the same dude earned just as many medals as Audie Murphy.
I'm sure John Kerry likes your reasoning.
OBAMANATION needs and requires the psychiatric care. Everyday, this Zero of a candidate becmes more and more pathetic. Hussein is a out to destroy America, the Country He LOVES......to Hate!
OBAMANATION needs and requires the psychiatric care. Everyday, this Zero of a candidate becmes more and more pathetic. Hussein is a out to destroy America, the Country He LOVES......to Hate!
I see that Yahoo has deleted this page. You have gotta love free speech!
And there is nothing wrong with that. The only issue is that Obama has to lie to try to deflect all the criticism that he might be antisemitic.
Or just holding back until it fades away. I still don't think the anyone in the mainstream media has picked up the story of the 57 states that Obama has visited. Just a minor gaffe. A presidential candidate does not know how many states there are.
I see yahoo took the question down. Maybe, like google, Al Gore has a share in the site.
I think I’ll go home tonight and amaze my friends with all kinds of amazing make believe relatives. I have a feeling they will not only have signed the Declaration of Independence, liberated the slaves, brought about peace in our time, ended the depression single handedly, and been named a Nobel Peace Prize winner, just like my HERO Al Gore (lol). Hopefully the truth won’t come out because the media isn’t in my back pocket and people will then see that I’m nothing more than a liar and a pretty bad one at that.
Long thread so maybe this was covered.
Obama is going as hard as he can for the Jewish vote which is slipping especially in Florida.
This uncle comment was to show his ties to Jews - liberator of Auschwitz.
The same is true of the attempt to smear John Hagee as anti-Jewish. Jews who know Hagee know he is a great champion of Israel and a crusader against anti-Semitism. McCain should be handling this better.
“Concerning the service of Mr. Charles Payne: C.T. Payne was a soldier in the 89th Infantry Division. He served in the 355th Infantry Regiment, Company K. The 355th Infantry Regiment was the unit to liberate Ohrdruf. Mr. Payne was there.”
Obama’s grand uncle was Charles W. Payne, not Charles T. Payne. Also, the webmaster of the site is a moonbat.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/a-query-to-the-89th-divisions-website
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Now, that is FASCINATING! Excellent observation. BTW, enlisted in the Navy are SAILORS, not soldiers...and thanks!
http://genealogy.about.com/od/aframertrees/p/obama_three.htm
OK, then it must be what Obama meant was that:
His great uncle, not his uncle, whose name is Charles T. Paine, but listed in his genealogy as Charles W. Payne, freed what he thought was Auschwitz, but really was Buchenwald, even though both C. W. Paynes and C. T. Paynes enlistment records show that they both enlisted in the Navy right after Pearl Harbor, well that is a year after Pearl Harbor, to protect our 57 states.
I saw that on Sweetness and light. Moonbat central at the Kitchell 89th website. My guess is Charles T. is NOT Obama’s uncle.
From a post at S&L by CurvyRed:
I am having a great deal of difficulty with verfication of this Charles T. Payne, because according to genealogy website his mother had one brother Charles W. Payne.
Rolla Charles PAYNE and Leona MCCURRY married in Kansas about 1922 and had the following children:
i. Madelyn PAYNE
ii. Charles W. PAYNE born about 1924.
iii. Arlene PAYNE born about 1926
Now there is a Jon Payne who claims to be Charles T. Paynes brother:
http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2.....e-mistake/
I really hope someone can verify if the great uncle is Charles W. or Charles T. and who the heck is Jon?
I checked Army records for all Charles W. Payne’s and didn’t find his uncle:
34986135 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### MISSISSIPPI ALCORN CP SHELBY MISSISSIPPI 44 Civil Life 24
35130575 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### OHIO HIGHLAND STOUT FIELD INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA 45 Enlisted Man, Philippine Scout or recall to AD of an enlisted man who had been transferred to the ERC 18
35484733 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### KENTUCKY GRAYSON LOUISVILLE KENTUCKY 42 Civil Life 15
35771823 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### Undefined Code Undefined Code HUNTINGTON WEST VIRGINIA 43 Civil Life 24
35824855 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### KENTUCKY JEFFERSON LOUISVILLE KENTUCKY 45 Civil Life 26
35986647 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### OHIO KNOX FT BRAGG NORTH CAROLINA 45 Enlisted Man, Philippine Scout or recall to AD of an enlisted man who had been transferred to the ERC 24
38288470 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### ARKANSAS VAN BURNE LITTLE ROCK ARKANSAS 42 Civil Life 22
39410090 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### CALIFORNIA NAPA SACRAMENTO CALIFORNIA 43 Civil Life 23
39463879 PAYNE#CHARLES#W#JR###### IDAHO LATAH SPOKANE WASHINGTON 43 Civil Life 24
19047778 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### OREGON MULTNOMAH PORTLAND OREGON 42 Civil Life 17
20349511 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### MARYLAND HARFORE BALTIMORE MARYLAND 41 National Guard 18
00630346 PAYNE#CHARLES#W#######/# MICHIGAN GENESEE FLINT MICHIGAN 40 National Guard 17
32138878 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### NEW YORK STEUBEN ROCHESTER NEW YORK 42 Civil Life 19
33132335 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### VIRGINIA SPOTSYLVANIA CP LEE VIRGINIA 42 Civil Life 20
33812896 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### Undefined Code Undefined Code PHILADELPHIA PENNSYLVANIA 44 Civil Life 16
34140857 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### TENNESSEE KNOX FT OGLETHORPE GEORGIA 41 Civil Life 13
34255437 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### NORTH CAROLINA PERSON FT BRAGG NORTH CAROLINA 42 Civil Life 20
34710694 PAYNE#CHARLES#W######### TENNESSEE KNOX CP FORREST TENNESSEE 43 Civil Life 23
34881456 PAYNE#CHARLES#W#SR###### TENNESSEE KNOX FT OGLETHORPE GEORGIA 43 Undefined Code 08
Jon Payne, Obamas maternal great uncle, told CNN that his older brother Charles returned from the war with photographs of concentration camps but did not want to talk about his experiences. Payne, 71, said he was unsure if his brother who is 83 and still living in Chicago took the photographs himself.
http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/27/obama-campaign-acknowledges-concentration-camp-name-mistake/
It looks like they’re still scrubbing the websites.
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