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To: RedRover
While I do not condone the innocent or even accidental killing of “un-armed” citizens, I understand the issues of war concerning collateral damage.

Further, while many of these citizens were “un-armed” it stands to question just how “innocent” or “un-involved” they may have been about the incident.

There is something to be said for an anticipated reaction to hostilities in any given war or specific battle. The anticipated reaction of the USA to a nuclear strike by the USSR is what prevented hostilities. The precursor to that understanding happened to be events in Japan that ended WWII.

A successful strategy in past wars was to have the “innocent civilians” fear their enemy more than they feared their own fighters. Break their will to fight and/or support the fight is what won the Asian side of WWII.

The same could be said for terrorist attacks on the USA. I would expect and hope, God Forbid, that if the USA was attacked again, much of the world would wring their hands and go into panic about the anticipated reaction. We have set precedence with our reaction to 9/11. I believe that our reaction does serve as a deterrent. I would expect that rational leaders of government around the world hope that America is never attacked again for fear or our going out and toppling another country or two.

Peace through strength. It is why I believe, 100%, that we can never “pull out of Iraq.” I don't care if we “occupy” sovereign territory (Bases) in Iraq for 100 years if our ominous presence strikes fear into the hearts and souls of those that wish our innocent civilians harm.

Again, I do not condone the reckless killing of innocent civilians in any battle but understand the fog of war and adrenaline induced action in a firefight. It's an unfortunate and messy business, this thing we call war. It is also unfortunate that war is often necessary to defend innocence and freedoms. It is costly but the ROI is invaluable.

8 posted on 05/28/2008 4:51:42 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (We have the ability to shape & polish turds, make em smell nice & sell them as public services)
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To: Tenacious 1

It’s clear by now that Al Qaeda’s use of Haditha for propanganda purposes was a miserable failure. All the “involuntary martyrs” blown to pieces by Al Qaeda makes the 24 deaths in Haditha insignificant. The residents of Anbar are now more concerned about securing their future (despite the best efforts of Al Qaeda, Congressman Murtha, and the MSM).

There are so many “lessons learned” from the war in Iraq that our military will be transformed. Obviously, it’s already begun with Gen Petraeus’ leadership.


17 posted on 05/28/2008 7:30:43 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Tenacious 1
I do not condone the reckless killing of innocent civilians in any battle . Well, reckless isn't the issue. There's nothing reckless about soldiers under fire defending themselves according to their training. Your comments about the veracity of their being 'innocent' is to the point when you recall that the little girl who survived the incident testified that they knew that an IED was to be detonated and was told to cover her ears. For that matter, when women and children are deliberately used for cover, I have some difficulty feeling sorry for them.
41 posted on 05/28/2008 7:43:33 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Live pure, speak true, right wrong and follow The King. (Tennyson))
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