Needed:Freeper Mechanical Wisdom Item that Claims to Increase Gas Milage Substantialy

Aquatune ^ | 05.27.08 | chickensoup

[sam_paine]

The patent didn't hold up.

My point was, as you say, GM was quite clearly using the 'good idea' even though it was contested.

Restating: If you were to see Aquacrap, Inc. suing GM because they were shipping 5 years of an OEM version of the water injection system...then...you might want to investigate retrofits.

[Smokin' Joe]

“In many cases such as mud and snow, narrow tires perform better in limited traction situations. Something I learned from the oldtimers in snow country.”

Old timers on crack.

I guess it depends on what you have under the mud.

If there is a good, solid substrate narrower tires do better in mud or snow as long as ground clearance is not a problem.

If you are driving in a bottomless pit or hood deep drifts, you are probably stuck either way.

But the wider tires tend to stay on top of the mud or snow, and that does not necessarily give you more traction.

[Mr. Quarterpanel]

Perhaps I failed to point out that I built my own. About 2 years ago.

I did have conceptional drawings, and I was getting the right amount of hydroxy vs. current drawn (which was substantial). I did see an improvement in mileage, but it was less than 10%. But then again, my truck has TBI instead of EFI, which might have accounted for several things not quite up to snuff.

After a couple of hot pops, I was worried about blowing the hood off, so I pulled it.

I liked the idea, I just need an EFI test bed vehicle.

[norwaypinesavage]

GM was one of the law suit winners that proved that patent was not original and did not have to pay. If you patent a wheel, that doesn't prevent me from selling one during the time your patent is contested. As I said, timers that control electric motors have been around for more than a century. Just because the patent office grants a patent for another one, doesn't mean the patent will hold up.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for GM to sell water injection systems. They've been around for at least half a century. They effectively raise octane, but at a fuel economy penalty.

[sam_paine]

Why do you keep arguing with me when I agree?

[norwaypinesavage]

I was mis-understanding your points. It appeared that you were chastising GM for not using the water injecting system. Now that I re-read it with more intensity, I see that we agree. Sorry

[sam_paine]

Violent agreement! =)

[gogeo]

That's nearly as bogus as the original claim...

Well, no...I've done so.