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To: thinkingIsPresuppositional

.. AND the point is ?!?

Are we to surmise from this example that the Holocaust never happened, that the concentration camp my father helped liberate during WWII in Germany was a figment of my father’s imagination - that the row of dead bodies stacked ten feet high and solid for half a mile was also a delusion of a war-weary American soldier?


2 posted on 05/27/2008 11:06:26 AM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT !!!)
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To: Twinkie
Methinks you have jumped over a cliff on this.... There is ample evidence from independent sources that the Holocaust did occur. The Al Durah thing was a fake, amply documented in the fine small documentary pallywood.

It's really a great example to us all that we shouldn't jump to conclusions and start wars on the basis of one news story, and to look for evidence rather than accepting the word of one media source. Media is now suspect! The internet and the people expose fraudulent stories and erroneous stories daily. Google pallywood and check the evidence yourself.

4 posted on 05/27/2008 11:20:05 AM PDT by vharlow (http://www.harlowhome.com)
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To: Twinkie
Are we to surmise from this example that the Holocaust never happened

What does the Al-Dura hoax have to do with the Holocaust (except that the same people who believe the IDF killed Al-Dura also happen to deny the Holocaust)

5 posted on 05/27/2008 11:31:46 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Twinkie

What a bizarre comment. Did you actually read this article?


6 posted on 05/27/2008 12:03:17 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Twinkie; pabianice
We are supposed to read the article fully and follow links from it to understand what is being said. This is about the alleged Israeli murder of a Palestinian boy hiding next to his father. It made the world news at the time, but the whole thing has been exposed as a grotesque hoax perpetrated with the aid of France 2, a formerly respected French national television news source.

Excerpt from a WSJ link:

Mr. Enderlin fed legitimate speculation of deceit by claiming to have footage of Mohammed al Durra's death throes while systematically refusing to reveal it. He aggravated his case by suing analysts who publicly questioned the authenticity of the report. Examination of an 18-minute excerpt of raw footage composed primarily of staged battle scenes, false injuries and comical ambulance evacuations reinforces the possibility that the al-Durra scene, too, was staged. (There is, strictly speaking, no raw footage of the al-Durra scene; all that exists are the six thin slices of images that were spliced together to produce the disputed news report.)

The possibility of a staged scene is further substantiated by expert testimony presented by Mr. Karsenty -- including a 90-page ballistics report and a sworn statement by Dr. Yehuda ben David attributing Jamal al-Durra's scars -- displayed as proof of wounds sustained in the alleged shooting -- to knife and hatchet wounds incurred when he was attacked by Palestinians in 1992. In fact, there is no blood on the father's T-shirt, the boy moves after Mr. Enderlin's voice-over commentary says he is dead, no bullets are seen hitting the alleged victims. And Mr. Enderlin himself had backtracked when the controversy intensified after seasoned journalists Denis Jeambar and Daniel Leconte viewed some of the raw footage in 2004. The news report, he said, corresponds to "the situation." The court, concurring with Messrs. Jeambar and Leconte, considers that journalism must stick to events that actually occur.

10 posted on 05/27/2008 2:39:30 PM PDT by xJones
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