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To: ctdonath2
"The right to life, ergo the right to defend that life, ergo right to possess suitable tools to defend that life, is fundamental and not subject to the whims of a majority or oligarchy."

Meaning that an illegal alien, a prisoner, a foreign exchange student, one who is mentally ill, a child -- all may possess suitable tools to defend their lives?

I agree that they all have the God-given inalienable right to self defense. No question. But where did you come up with this "suitable tools" definition?

"If there are legitimate, Constitutionally-protected reasons for owning it, heck yeah there's something wrong with criminalizing possession thereof."

Like fuel oil and fertilizer? Box cutters? Things like that?

It would seem to me that our constitution would allow the people, through their elected representatives, to regulate those objects or activities that they deem harmful to the general public. Even if you think they're wrong. Even if they ARE wrong.

170 posted on 05/28/2008 9:17:34 AM PDT by vincentfreeman
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To: vincentfreeman
That IS you Paulsen! Same sorry arguments too.

Meaning that an illegal alien, a prisoner, a foreign exchange student, one who is mentally ill, a child -- all may possess suitable tools to defend their lives?

Illegal aliens and foreign exchange students are not citizens. Prisoners and the mentally ill are particular individuals who have lost some of their rights for specific reasons in order to protect society at large from their actions. Hardly the same as denying rights to citizens wholesale.

Like fuel oil and fertilizer? Box cutters? Things like that?

It would seem to me that our constitution would allow the people, through their elected representatives, to regulate those objects or activities that they deem harmful to the general public. Even if you think they're wrong. Even if they ARE wrong.

I can own all of those items. I cannot use them to commit crimes. And the constitution does not protect the tyranny of the majority, it protects against it. But then you knew that, you just don't like it.

172 posted on 05/28/2008 9:40:39 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: vincentfreeman

Go away, robertpaulsen/vincentfreeman/whateverhighmindedlosersnameyoulltakeonnext.


173 posted on 05/28/2008 9:57:08 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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