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Continental pilot startled by encounter with 'rocket'(Houston)
Houston Chronicle via Drudge Report ^ | May 26, 2008 | CINDY HORSWELL

Posted on 05/27/2008 6:17:15 AM PDT by RDTF

A Continental Airlines pilot reported being startled by what he described as a rocket that shot past his cockpit window Monday when the plane was about eight miles north of George Bush Intercontinental Airport.

The Federal Aviation Administration and the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force are investigating the incident, which occurred about 10:30 a.m.

"We don't know for sure what the object was. But we think it might be somebody doing model rocketing," said Roland Herwig, an FAA spokesman. "The pilot saw the rocket and some people saw the rocket's trail (of smoke)."

Continental Airlines spokeswoman Kelly Cripe said Monday night that she could not discuss what was seen by the crew of Flight 1544. She would only say that the Boeing 737, with 148 passengers. left Bush at 10:17 a.m. and arrived in Cleveland, Ohio at 2:13 p.m.

She said the pilot made no diversionary maneuvers, and she added the plane was not damaged, and nobody was injured.

The FAA does not yet know how close the object came to the plane or what altitude it reached. "We will determine that by establishing a radar history," Herwig said.

FBI spokeswoman Shauna Dunlap stressed that it is "routine" for the FBI to look into suspicious activity involving an aircraft.

"We don't know if it was a rocket or what. We will interview everyone and determine the validity of what was seen," she said.

If it was model rocket, investigators want to know the type and who launched it.

"Building rockets is a legitimate hobby, but hobbyists have to let the FAA know what they're doing," Herwig said.

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To: txflake

“If yesterday wasn’t Memorial Day I’d be more suspicious.”

Oh I agree, I fully expect more pain and suffering in our country as the Dims strengthen their power base. Still I can’t think of too many things more fun than launching a big rocket.

Its hard to do here in Florida, not very many open spaces you can use for recovery. Had a really nice one and was making first launches with an F motor. Dang thing came down in a tree a LONG ways off.


21 posted on 05/27/2008 7:11:37 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Rebelbase

“Multi-stage Estes Rockets purchased at hobby and toy stores can reach altitudes in excess of 2600 feet. “

Oh I agree and love every single foot of that altitude. I looked it up on some of the rocketry websites.


22 posted on 05/27/2008 7:15:01 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: txflake

To clarify, I can’t think of too many things more fun to do on this holiday than launching rockets. Great hobby.

Of course lacking open spaces for proper recovery I went to the beach.


23 posted on 05/27/2008 7:17:12 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Rebelbase
Some friends of ours moved out to a farm, lots of acres of lovely, flat Indiana land. The corn has just poked up through the ground so it was easy to walk the rows for recovery.

I had forgotten was a thrill it was to see a rocket soar into the sky.
24 posted on 05/27/2008 7:24:35 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Just say NO... to Hillary and O'Bama)
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To: driftdiver

“Of course lacking open spaces for proper recovery I went to the beach.”

You just gave me an idea about trying a rocket motor on a stick to launch a bait rig out over the breakers.


25 posted on 05/27/2008 7:26:41 AM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I do recall an airplane encounter with a Laker (LA) a few years back...

26 posted on 05/27/2008 7:35:33 AM PDT by mikrofon (And it was a Muslim)
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To: Rebelbase

let me know if that works. I’ve been trying to work out a salt water proof rocket and not having much luck.


27 posted on 05/27/2008 7:36:21 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

hey drift diver,
where do you dive in Florida?


28 posted on 05/27/2008 7:36:57 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: mikrofon

I thought his name was Roger Murdock.


29 posted on 05/27/2008 7:37:09 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: RDTF
I flew into Bush Airport yesterday afternoon - must have missed the excitement by a couple of hours.

I've seen enough rockets over the past few years - heh!

30 posted on 05/27/2008 7:42:16 AM PDT by Allegra (TEHRAN DELENDA EST)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Houston PING


31 posted on 05/27/2008 7:43:15 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: RDTF
"Building rockets is a legitimate hobby, but hobbyists have to let the FAA know what they're doing," Herwig said.

Did Roger Waters alert the FAA when they cut loose the "neocon" pig balloon at his recent concert in the Woodlands?

32 posted on 05/27/2008 7:44:40 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: driftdiver

We used to make homemade bottle rockets by taping a balsa wood stick to a rocket engine and igniting it with firecracker fuse.

Need trial and error to find a way to attach a wire leader (so the line doesn’t burn) to the rocket, attached to a 1/2 oz weight/hook/bait. Ideally something that would allow the rig to separate from the leader after it hit the water as I don’t think the burnt motor smell would be very attractive to the fish.


33 posted on 05/27/2008 7:44:44 AM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: Joe Boucher

‘where do you dive in Florida?”

In the water........

deepends, the keys or pompano beach for deep, wreck, or drift dives. Off Venice beach to find sharks teeth. Or in the springs for crystal clear easy dives in 72 degree freezing water.


34 posted on 05/27/2008 7:45:10 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: RDTF

A stinger with a bad seeker unit, couldn’t lock on but had a near miss. Check the local mosque for the rest of the shipment.


35 posted on 05/27/2008 8:00:26 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: wbill
It's unlikely it was a toy rocket because they don't go up that high, maybe 1,000 feet. The jet was likely way too high to even notice a toy rocket in the air. A hobbyist with a more powerful rocket wouldn't likely be so irresponsible to launch it in a populated area. This was no minor incident.
36 posted on 05/27/2008 8:12:17 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses

The story says the pilot say the smoke trail. That would indicate to me the rocket was still under power. Amateur rockets will easily go this high. 8 miles from the airport is a decent distance and would be adequate for most rockets.

Something doesn’t add up though. We are supposed to believe a commercial jet was at 5000 feet of altitude 8 miles from the runway. The plane had taken off and should have been gaining altitude.

Do any pilots on here know what altitude the jet should have been at?

IMO it seems more likely a govt attempt to squash amateur rockets than anything else. A ground launched missile would have went for the engines and not the cockpit.


37 posted on 05/27/2008 8:19:44 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Rebelbase

“Need trial and error to find a way to attach a wire leader (so the line doesn’t burn) to the rocket, attached to a 1/2 oz weight/hook/bait.”

We also need beer to fuel the testing. The attachment of a wire leader shouldn’t be a problem. Making it separate is harder on a throw away budget. Perhaps water soluble glue? The line will also add a fair amount of drag and instability to the rocket.

Of course the environmentalists will love this product for leaving engine casings on the reefs.

A large rubber band contraption might work as well. They are used to launch some of the UAVs and similiar objects.


38 posted on 05/27/2008 8:25:48 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: RDTF

39 posted on 05/27/2008 8:27:26 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: driftdiver

The jet would have been talking to departure control and maintaining an assigned altitude like 6,000 feet and a specific speed and direction. A airliner can climb steeply if it wants to but holds off until it’s far from the airport traffic area.


40 posted on 05/27/2008 8:28:33 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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