Posted on 05/26/2008 9:44:18 PM PDT by The_Republican
With fat Ted Kennedy’s senate seat probably opening up within a couple of years, Mitt could serve the GOP by moving back to Mass and running for it. He’s probably the only Republican in the state who would have a prayer of taking it. Or does Mitt think that running for a lowly senate seat to be beneath him?
The time for this discussion, was (before) the primaries.
The team has been selected, fair and square.
It’s time to get with the program. Not complain.
The bottom line is that I believe McCain when he says he will legalize the status of those already here illegally. That is the definition of amnesty and it will destroy this country with the stroke of a pen.
“Tom Coburn: Republicans Are in Denial”
Hey Tom, I can’tbelieve that backstabbing creep is the nominee either. Darn but it’s going to be a frightening next four years.
“failed experiments like the K Street Project and “compassionate conservatism.”
Somewhere a bush-bot weeps.
I saw the post to which you responded and was hoping that you had as well.....I was thinking that he just earned a whole set of mugs.
“how else do you get a FREE and STRONG america.”
Maybe they mean’t “Norte Americano?”
Because Coburn is betting on the continued ignorance of the electorate as to the reality of how much our failed welfare state is going to cost ordinary taxpayers.
Forget about the costs, our country will be destroyed. We can’t absorb that many people. There will be riots in the streets, only this time by American citizens.
A great article, which hits the nail on the head as far as spending goes. But (whatever Coburn’s position may be on other issues) it ignores an awful lot of other problems, such as the right to live, marriage, supreme court appointments, the need to undo all the social activism.
And that last paragraph puts they whole thing into question. If he thinks McCain will lead us out of the wilderness, then he doesn’t really believe a damned thing he said earlier.
Don't forget to mention that McCain is the only one in the race, and Coburn will still be in the Senate after this election.
I know, I emailed the article to some friends with the last paragraph omitted, because the rest of the article is relevant. Coburn's conservative credentials are unquestionable.
I have the luxury of being able to vote against McCain, without effecting the outcome of the election. If I lived in a state that could make a difference, then I would hold my nose and vote for the traitor. Knowing the alternative scares me to death.
And how will anything be different, if McCain loses? There will be Zero chance of delaying this if Obama or Hillary are elected. They may be able to side track McCainiac, unless of course the whole bunch are corrupt, which may be the case, then sadly, it won't matter.
No I think he really does, but there is no other candidate. All the things we hate about McCain is priority one on the other party's agenda. They may well have a veto proof senate if the conservatives stay home and don't vote down ballot.
The it is turn out the lights, the party is over.
Well, I certainly agree with you that everyone should get out and vote for state and local candidates. But how someone well to the left of George Bush could “lead us out of the wilderness” simply makes no sense.
If he couldn’t say anything good about McCain, I wouldn’t blame him for remaining silent. But there’s no point in telling an outright lie that undermines his entire argument.
Whatever people decide to do about the McCain problem, we certainly need to vote for conservative candidates at other levels.
There will be no difference. That is the point. On ame nesty, McCain, Obama, and Hillary hold the same position.
There will be Zero chance of delaying this if Obama or Hillary are elected.
The battle will be fought in the House. It will be easier to fight if a Dem is elected to the WH than a Rep. The Dems want this to be a bipartisan measure in much the same way as it was in 2006 and 2007. The RINOs will be more prone to go along with McCain than Obama.
They may be able to side track McCainiac, unless of course the whole bunch are corrupt, which may be the case, then sadly, it won't matter.
If amnesty passes, and the chances are that it probably will regardless of who wins the WH, then I want the Dems to be the ones who are held accountable for the consequences. What I do know is that amnesty will change the political landscape in this country rearranging the various constituencies.
If the Rep party can maintain its opposition to amnesty and be seen as the proponent for real change to our legal immigration policies, e.g., reduced levels of immigration, a merit based immigration system, the elimination of birthright citizenship, the curtailment of chain migration beyond the nuclear family, etc. then it will be in a far better position to pick up the pieces after amnesty. If not, a third party will emerge.
And with that single line, Tom Coburn just made the de facto declaration that he was just kidding and didn't mean what he just said.
OK, I will give you this much. Even as McCain die-hard supporter, I didn’t expect that last paragraph at the end of that article.
However, here is my understanding of why he wrote that.
OUR BRAND IS IN TROUBLE.
Part of that brand was fiscal responsibility and honest Government. I assure you, had Republicans not gone on spending binge, base would not be so dispirited. They could have forgiven the amnesty bill and get with the program of stopping Obamao. However, the Ambramoff scandal, the Toe Tapping and Page Paging, has taken ALL passion out of the base.
Its tough to fight for a cause when you are not proud of your leaders. Not only that, they don’t even know which one of them may be sitting in Men’s bathroom and flirting with the dude in next toilet.
COMPLETE LOST OF TRUST is what base is experiencing.
What Coburn is saying is that here is a leader who DID NOT GO ALONG with the spending bingers.
Think TEN COMMANDMENTS. At the moment Moses returns, you see what debauchery Isrealites were engaged in. Well, their were some who weren’t, like Aaron.
McCain is our last hope to save brand because his reputation amongst non-hyper-conservatives is still in tact.
It is foolish to burn down the whole house because end result of that would be ABSOLUTE POWER FOR LIBERALS.
Socialism.
To think that people would be repulsed with all the things Liberals would do is COMPLETELY RETARDED.
That is the WORST POLITICAL PLAN ever conceived in the History of mankind.
By the time people revolt against Liberal debauchery, it may may be Chelsea Kliton who is our President.
The response to Katrina was evidence that "compassionate conservatism,' as delivered by government, cannot compete with compassionate conservatism, delivered by the private sector.
Even now, the work of Churches and other charities is continuing to change the realities on the ground in the Louisiana and Mississsippi gulf region.
NOT the government handouts, which has kept many of the Katrina refugees in a state of permanent dependency.
” While the K Street Project decimated our brand as the party of reform and limited government, compassionate conservatism convinced the American people to elect the party that was truly skilled at activist government: the Democrats.”
Coburn is right and I hope R’s pay attention. And the head guru of the K St. Project? Grover Norquist, policy maker for the white house and all things GOP. The guy who said his dream is to arrive at the ‘squishy middle’.
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