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" When they came for the ~~Jews~~ Mormons, I said nothing because I wasn't a ~~Jew~~ Mormon. When they came for the Homeschoolers, I said nothing because I wasn't a Homeschooler..."

I'm sure I'll be bombarded for this, but here it goes anyway:

Just because you don't personally agree with their theology and marital practices (neither do I, BTW), doesn't mean the State should have done what they did. Particularly on the strength of a specious call from a known mentally disturbed woman with an axe to grind.

If there really were children being abused, then by all means, vigorously investigate and prosecute those as individual cases (as would be done in any other instance). That's just "old-fashioned Police work". But to remove over 450 children from their families on the possibility that maybe a dozen were at risk is preposterous, and just threw us all headlong down the infamous "slippery slope".

Do you think it's better for large groups of children to be forcibly separated from their parents and each other for an indeterminate period, simply because their neighbors might have abused their own children? And placed into the care of the State!? Nothing bad has ever happened to children in foster care, right? No child has ever been abused, molested, or neglected while in foster care, right? I thought this forum was for those who value individual rights.

BTW, try placing 5 or 6 siblings in the same foster home, it just won't happen. Imagine being told the only way you'll ever see your children again is to completely renounce and give up your religion. That's what the mothers are being told. Is that OK w/you? Sounds a bit too Chinese Communist to me.

This thing has now drug on for a month, and not one single criminal charge has been filed against anyone, and children are being quietly returned to their families as we speak.

This will end badly for the State of Texas. It's already cost over 20 million dollars and rising every day. Now their next move is to confiscate the property to "recover their costs". Where's the Freeper outrage over that???

The Supreme Court rules against some guy up North (who was probably "different" too), and lets a municipality take his cheesy little couple of acres, and the Freeper Constitutionalists lit this board up w/righteous indignation like a Christmas tree for a month.

Look at the threads on the "Assault on the Family" in our society on this board. If you don't think it's a real short leap from their "Fundamentalist Christian" families to "regular" mainstream Christian families, you're sadly mistaken.

But let these "weird Mormons" be dispossessed of everything, even their very families, and you are gleeful because they go to a different church than you do? Take a hard look at yourselves. If they get away with this, maybe you're next, maybe you're last. But when they do come for you, will anyone be left to say something???

First, there is nothing “quiet” about how the CPS has returned the 12 children to their three families. Google FLDS, and the first 99 or so articles that come up will be about this very non-quiet story.

But more important, please define “family” for us. Do you mean a mom, dad, and one or more children? Or do you mean 7 moms and their childrens, and one dad? Or 7 moms, some of whom have been “given” the children of other moms as punishment for those moms, or even just because the leader of the church got a bee in his bonnet? Or 7 moms, a bunch of children, one dad—until that dad ticked off the church leader and had the entire family ripped away from him and given to some other “dad”?

You cannot compare that kind of family to the kind of family most of us know. To say that it’s wrong to have children “ripped from the arms of their mothers” ignores the fact that this happens anyway in their world when they are (for whatever reason) give to some other mother, or to some other father.

Imagine being told the only way you'll ever see your children again is to completely renounce and give up your religion.

I know where you're coming from in libertarian terms, but you've got to remember that children are wards; not property. And what constitutes a religion, at least in this country, is defined by the individual, who might or might not make a "religious" practice of bringing up little girls for the sole purpose of having a fresh supply of sweet young teenagers for middle-aged men to prey upon. I don't fault the state for its concern.