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A faith-based approach to undocumented immigration[South Texas]
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 05/24/2008 | Hernan Rozemberg

Posted on 05/25/2008 4:17:34 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

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To: Swordfished
Frankly the bulldog, take-no-prisoners attitude I sense from many posters daily is flat-out un-Christlike.
I have not seen such an attitude here. No one here has advocated anything other than granting due process and returning those who violate our laws to their own country.
21 posted on 05/25/2008 5:13:15 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

That church should remember Matthew 22:21, which states that Jesus said, “Repay to Caesar what belongs to Caasar and to God what bedlongs to God.” That means that Jesus wanted us to obey all laws. He probably thinks that our government should deport as many illegal aliens as possible, as quickly as possible.


22 posted on 05/25/2008 5:13:35 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Prokopton

Many illeal immigrants worship Santa Muerte — Saint Death.


23 posted on 05/25/2008 5:19:18 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: mrsmel

exactly. Plus, I guess the next time someone breaks into my house, I don’t call the authorities....I just take a chance and not protect my child/home....and say “Oh I am sorry, did you need a t.v.?? Here take mine and Lord go with you....just please don’t shoot us on your way out...”

The Lord did not give us this country so that we would have the freedoms we do so that we could let another group of unappreciative law breakers in to wear away at our countries and culture...

The Catholic Church only wants them here so there will be more Catholics in the U.S. The Catholic church is only concerned with spreading Catholicism. Sorry if that offends anyone, but if the truth offends you then so be it...

If the church REALLY wanted to help these people they would pay their passage back to Mexico and send food/water or whatever it is that they need with them.....but helping them stay is just as bad as ANYONE that harbors a fugitive...I don’t care if you call yourself a church or how spiritual you are...


24 posted on 05/25/2008 5:26:01 PM PDT by DrewsMum (www.reportillegals.com)
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To: Swordfished

“Were Jesus to walk around in the U.S. today, he’d be visiting at the homes of illegals, among others. He fraternized with all kinds of lowly types - the poor, prostitutes, etc. He’d never encourage illegal behavior (unless in violation of God’s law), but he’d surely forgive them...”

Um, part of getting forgiveness is not having the intention of doing it again...and one more note....when Jese “hung out” with those people he always forgave them and said GO AND SIN NO MORE!


25 posted on 05/25/2008 5:29:58 PM PDT by DrewsMum (www.reportillegals.com)
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To: Nice50BMG

The alien guests to be treated with kindness acted like guests. Spies and rebellious natives were executed.


26 posted on 05/25/2008 5:31:15 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Nice50BMG

1) sojourner

a) a temporary inhabitant, a newcomer lacking inherited rights

b) of foreigners in Israel, though conceded rights


27 posted on 05/25/2008 5:43:34 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: org.whodat
The catholics have a lot of taxable church property, time to tax it!

Agreed. As a Catholic, I'm offended that they're acting like just any other left-wing group: Being generous with other people's property.

28 posted on 05/25/2008 5:52:16 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Better to have your enemy before you than beside you or behind you.)
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To: Nice50BMG

The balance is that the “alien” in Old Testament Israel was a novelty. Mostly just passing through.

Not 20-30 million, with one million more every year.

That’s called an invasion.

And God in the Old Testament had a different way of dealing with that.


29 posted on 05/25/2008 5:53:41 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: donna
All they need is the address.

We should be sending them to the Kennedy Compound, to Bush's "Prairie Chapel Ranch" and to MacNut's mansion in Sedona. Let them demonstrate how much the country needs them by spending their resources instead of the country's.

30 posted on 05/25/2008 5:54:35 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Better to have your enemy before you than beside you or behind you.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Many illeal immigrants worship Santa Muerte — Saint Death.
So do many Americans.
Santa Muerte is known here as Lady Luck.
31 posted on 05/25/2008 5:59:15 PM PDT by radioman
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To: RochesterFan

And these same poor, pathetic illegal immigrants are the same ones we see in the demonstrations later, marching down streets carrying American flags hung upside-down underneath Mexican flags, threatening to “reconquer” American territory. I suppose the Christian thing to do would be to give them the Southwest, and whatever other regions they demand after that?


32 posted on 05/25/2008 6:04:30 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: DrewsMum
And I'm afraid that I'm just not noble enough to welcome the re-introduction of diseases that we had more or less wiped out in this country,plus new ones that were never epidemic, by illegal immigrants who won't do the Christian thing and report their illness to the authorities and be treated, because they don't want to give up the entitlements they acquire by being here. Nor am I noble enough to not mind the identity theft that makes working-class Americans have to deal with the IRS for years, with no recourse, because the IRS isn't interested in finding the truth, they just want their pound of flesh, and the legal citizen taxpayer is the only one they can extract it from-not the illegal fraudulently using their SS number.
33 posted on 05/25/2008 6:09:42 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: radioman
Does she look like this?


34 posted on 05/25/2008 6:11:50 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Faith Based institutions are key to the demographic warfare being waged by Mexico on the USA.

Here is a list of them, just so you know who they are:

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Amazing how "churches" care more about filling the pews than they do about the thousands upon thousands of Americans killed by illegals since 9/11.>>>>>>>>>>>

In truth you speak. The Interfaith Council has put billions of dollars into Illegal immigrant assitance over the last twenty years. There is compassion and then there is IDIOT COMPASSION!( a liberal affectation). They are the lobbying group that has The President and the RINOs fawning all over them on illegal aliens! They wage demographic warfare on the United States, under the banner of Marxist socialist Liberation Theology!

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Who are they? Take a gander:

http://www.wr.org/ourwork/whatwedo/reform.asp

QUOTE:

We, the undersigned faith-based leaders and organizations, join together to call upon President Bush and our elected officials in Congress to enact comprehensive immigration reform legislation that establishes a safe and humane immigration system consistent with our values. Our diverse faith traditions teach us to welcome our brothers and sisters with love and compassion.

UNQUOTE

The result of the Roman Catholic foundation movement is here, among many other religious institutions whose liberal values represent a multicultural agenda, and a complete social change for the United States, and the devolution of our culture of freedom through immigration for immigrants who have no intended allegiance to the United States or its constitution:

National Organizations:

Anti-Defamation League

American Friends Service Committee (AFSC)

American Jewish Committee

American Jewish Congress

American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA)

B’nai B’rith International

Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Inc. (CLINIC)

Church World Service/Immigration and Refugee Program

The Conference of Major Superiors of Men

Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS)

International Catholic Migration Commission

Irish Apostolate, USA

Islamic Circle of North America

Jesuit Conference

Jesuit Refugee Service/USA

Jewish Council for Public Affairs

Jewish Reconstructionist Federation

Jubilee Campaign USA

Justice for Our Neighbors Immigration Clinic Network

La Ermita - The Hermitage

Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service

Mennonite Central Committee U.S. Washington Office

Mexican American Cultural Center

National Council of Jewish Women

National Ministries, American Baptist Churches USA

U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops

Union for Reform Judaism

United Jewish Communities

United Methodist Committee on Relief

United States Province of the Priests of the Sacred Heart

Women In Islam, Inc.

Women’s League for Conservative Judaism

World Relief

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Local Organizations:

Baltimore Jewish Council

Building Bridges: Hispanic Outreach Project Community of St. Anthony Church in Canton, Ohio

Cabrini Immigrant Services, Dobbs Ferry, New York

Cabrini Immigrant Services, New York, New York

California Province of the Society of Jesus Capuchin Province of St. Joseph, Detroit, Michigan

Catholic Charities Diocese of Des Moines

Catholic Charities Diocese of San Diego

Catholic Charities Hawaii

Catholic Charities Health and Human Services, Diocese of Cleveland

Catholic Charities Housing Opportunities (CCHO), Youngstown, Ohio

Catholic Charities in the Archdiocese of Santa Fe, New Mexico

Catholic Charities in the Diocese of Paterson, New Jersey

Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Arlington, Virginia

Catholic Charities of Tennessee, Inc.

Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston, Texas

Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Washington

Catholic Migration Office of the Diocese of Brooklyn, New York

Catholic Social Services in Anchorage, Alaska

Clerics of St. Viator, Chicago Province

Commonwealth Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Richmond, Virginia

Community Relations Council of the Jewish Federation of San Antonio

Congregation of Holy Cross, Southern Province

Congregation of Our Lady of Victory Missionary Sisters, Huntington, Indiana

Detroit Province of the Society of Jesus

En Camino, Migrant and Immigrant Services, Diocese of Toledo, Ohio

Family Unity & Citizenship Program of the Diocese of Las Cruces

HIAS and Council Migration Services of Philadelphia

Hogar Hispano - Catholic Charities, Falls Church, Virginia Houston Dominican Sisters

Human Concerns Commission of the Diocese of San Jose

Interfaith Refugee and Immigration Ministries of Illinois

Jewish Community Action, St. Paul, Minnesota

Jewish Community Relations Council of the Jewish Federation of Southern Arizona

Lutheran Children and Family Service of Eastern Pennsylvania

Lutheran Family Services in the Carolinas

Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota

Lutheran Social Services of Michigan

Lutheran Social Services of New England

Lutheran Social Services of Northern New England

Lutheran Social Services of South Dakota

Lutheran Social Services of the National Capital Area

Marianist Province of the United States, St. Louis, Missouri

Metropolitan Council on Jewish Poverty, New York

Migration and Refugee Services Diocese of Trenton, New Jersey

Missionary Sisters of the Immaculate Conception, Province of the Immaculate Conception, Paterson, New Jersey

Missionary Sisters of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Stella Maris Province, New York, New York

Missionhurst-CICM, Arlington, Virginia

National Catholic Rural Life Conference, Des Moines, Iowa

New Albany Deanery of the Archdiocese of Indianapolis, Indiana

Northern Indiana Ecumenical Multicultural Ministry (NIEMM), Morocco, Indiana

Organización for Latino Awareness of the Catholic Theological Union in Chicago

Priests of the Sacred Heart (SCJ), Hales Corners, Wisconsin

Provincial Council of the Province of St. John the Baptist of the Order of Friars Minor, Cincinnati, Ohio

River's Edge Community Church, Oella, Maryland

Saints Peter and Paul Church, Savannah, Georgia

Society of Jesus (Jesuits), New York Province

Society of the Divine Word, Chicago Province

St James Faithful Citizenship, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

St James Parish Council, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

St James Parish Social Ministries, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

St. Benedict's Abbey, Benet Lake, Wisconsin

UJA-Federation of New York

Vincentian Center for Church and Society at St. John's University, New York

Western Dominican Province, Oakland, California

Wider Church Ministries - United Church of Christ, Cleveland, Ohio

Wisconsin Province of the Society of Jesus

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Individual Faith Leaders:

Pamela Beech, Archdiocese of Detroit, Lay Leadership and Formation

Rev. Dr. Clive Calver, Walnut Hill Community Church, Bethel, CT

P. Adem Carroll, 9/11 Relief Director Islamic Circle of North America USA (ICNA Relief)

Patrick Gilger, SJ, Loyola University Chicago

Most Reverend Nicholas DiMarzio, Bishop of Brooklyn

John E. Dister, SJ, Detroit Province Jesuits, Loyola of the Lakes Retreat House

Bob Dunden, SJ, St Benedict the Moor Parish, Omaha, NE

John C. Fickes, Detroit Province of the Society of Jesus

Francis Cardinal George, Archbishop of Chicago

Michael Higgins, C.P., Provincial Superior of Holy Cross Province of the Passionists, Chicago, Illinois

Daniel Idzikowski, Catholic Charities of the Diocese of La Crosse, Inc., La Crosse, Wisconsin

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh, Port Wentworth, Georgia

Dr Khurshid Khan, President of the Islamic Circle of North America

Most Reverend Gerald Kicanas, Bishop of Tucson

Clifton Kirkpatrick, Stated Clerk of the General Assembly, Presbyterian Church-USA

Abbot Jerome Kodell, OSB, Subiaco, Arkansas

Reverand John S.Korcsmar, CSC, Austin, Texas

Sister Larraine Lauter OSU, Owensboro, Kentucky

Reverand Msgr. Ronald T. Marino, Brooklyn, New York

Peter Vander Meulen, Office of Social Justice and Hunger Action, Christian Reformed Church

Carrie Monnette, Detroit Province Jesuits, Assistant for Social and International Ministries

Allan Parker, Pastor, Quitman Church of the Nazarene, Quitman, GA

Sylvia Romero, Hispanic Ministry at Grace United Methodist Church, Olathe, Kansas

Most Reverend Carlos Sevilla, S.J., Bishop of Yakima, Washington

Secretary General, Rashid Siddiqui, Islamic Circle of North America

Michael Simone, SJ, Weston Jesuit School of Theology

Most Reverend Jaime Soto, Auxiliary Bishop of Orange, California

Madonna Della Strada, Jesuit Residence

Professor Elie Wiesel, Boston University

Most Reverend Thomas G. Wenski, Bishop of Orlando

35 posted on 05/25/2008 6:57:42 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

lol...
I prefer the gringo babe in a bikini!


36 posted on 05/25/2008 6:57:59 PM PDT by radioman
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To: Swordfished

Were Jesus to walk around in the U.S. today, he’d be visiting at the homes of illegals, among others. He fraternized with all kinds of lowly types - the poor, prostitutes, etc.”
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Read futher on down in your Bible, He also told them to “go, and sin no more.”


38 posted on 05/25/2008 7:01:16 PM PDT by cowdog77 (Circle the Wagons)
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To: DrewsMum

Um, part of getting forgiveness is not having the intention of doing it again...and one more note....when Jese “hung out” with those people he always forgave them and said GO AND SIN NO MORE!
________________________

Note: Key word here is GO.


39 posted on 05/25/2008 7:02:50 PM PDT by cowdog77 (Circle the Wagons)
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