Posted on 05/25/2008 1:39:33 PM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded
I know this probably is going to come as a stunning surprise to you but Libertine and Libertarian are not the same thing
They have state conventions where each county is authorized a certain number of representatives. Anyone that has been an LP member for a year or more is allowed to vote although they may only attend as a nonvoting member if they have been a member less than a year.
In actuality counties may share representative slots so that persons showing up at-large can vote in place of others that did not show up at the convention.
Additionally, rules may be suspended to allow even recent party members to vote in most state conventions.
The national convention works much the same way as the state convention with only a little more control of individual credentials.
The State convention nominates and votes on the persons it will send to the national convention.
The LP posts their bylaws online and also votes on changes to the bylaws at each convention.
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Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
[lib-er-tair-ee-uhn]
noun
1. a person who advocates liberty, esp. with regard to thought or conduct.
2. a person who maintains the doctrine of free will.
adjective
3. advocating liberty or conforming to principles of liberty.
4. maintaining the doctrine of free will.
[Origin: 178090; libert(y) + -arian
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
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You say "BTW, libertarianism doesn't make sense," yet Our Founding Fathers were libertarian. That is where I got the idea.
From Wikipedia:
The term libertarianism refers to a political philosophy maintaining that all persons are the absolute owners of their own lives, and should be free to do whatever they wish with their persons or property, provided they allow others the same liberty and avoid harming others by abusing their liberty.
Doesn't that sound like the Golden Rule applied to Adults? "Your freedom ends where my nose begins."
Would you care to parse that statement and tell me I'm not the absolute owner of my life? That I should not be free to own my property?
If I had to tag myself, I would say I am a Goldwater libertarian objectivist Republican.
I'm not at all out of line with the values of this forum. Look at these words from the Republican Liberty Caucus:
Liberty Compact: A Candidate's PledgeI seem to remember in 1964, Barry Goldwater was the political founder of our modern day Conservative movement when he wrested control of the Republican Party from the liberal Rockefeller Republicans and paved the way for every Republican President since.The Liberty Compact is a written pledge inspired by the words of the late Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) in his book, "Conscience of a Conservative," which promotes the belief that government isn't the solution, but all too often, the problem. The pledge reads as follows:
"I, (insert name), pledge to the citizens of the State of (insert state) and to the American people, that as their elected representative I will work to: Restore liberty, not restrict it; shrink government, not expand it; reduce taxes, not raise them; abolish programs, not create them; promote the freedom and independence of citizens, not the interference of government in their lives; and observe the limited, enumerated powers of our Constitution, not ignore them."
While I no longer wish to have anything to do with the Islamist lackey appearers of the LP, my fiscal and social beliefs are still very much "small ell" libertarian in keeping with our Founding Fathers.
I agree, 100%.
“Except that the presidential nominee is the presumptive leader of the party, and that is McCain, and that won’t usher in a conservative movement at the leadership level. McCain is still giving conservatives the middle-finger salute.
How did the last conservative movement get ushered in? Carter as a disasterous president.
So, if you want an historical movement to usher in a conservative movement, you need a really, really bad Democratic president.”
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