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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 May 2008
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 25 May 2008 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 05/25/2008 4:59:01 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: oswegodeee
Yes building more refineries would help however but we do not need more refineries to bring down the price of gas. More Oil would do that. Building more refiners would bring the price father down.

If you increase supply the price of an item goes down. Increasing the supply of Oil would bring the price of Oil down. Since something like 65% of the price of gas is the price of Oil, brining the price of Oil down will reduce the price of gas

81 posted on 05/25/2008 7:16:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: txradioguy
Great capture TX! And thanks again for your service to our country on this Memorial weekend.
82 posted on 05/25/2008 7:16:50 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Sal

IOW I don’t get how the Rats get a pass for leading the charge against the USA.

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Yes you do. ;*)

Think of any big city run by democrats, and how those administrations are treated by their local newspapers. Dems are Never blamed for bad ideas resulting in bad outcomes. It is Always someone or something else’s fault. and which usually has a ‘solution’ which requires more money.

How often has that Congressional approval number been mentioned on the dncmedia?


83 posted on 05/25/2008 7:19:17 AM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: oswegodeee

[If we did somehow increase oil production, would we not need to build new refineries?]

Permits have been issued for a new refinery near Yuma, AZ. They do still have a few permits about local construction to obtain but I talked to a spokeswoman Friday and she was certain it would continue. I hope so!

In addition, there is a group looking to build a refinery near Elk Point, SD (about 15 miles from my sis’s house). Locals are being barraged by greenie lies, justt as they were in Arizona. Google “Elk Point Refinery”!


84 posted on 05/25/2008 7:22:01 AM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: Sunnyflorida

That’s good news. I agree that the current R leadership is only interested in self preservation. This technique will only lead to self destruction.


85 posted on 05/25/2008 7:23:30 AM PDT by grace522
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To: Fishtalk
...later in the day when the strange ones descend upon this very popular thread.

I'm already here.

86 posted on 05/25/2008 7:25:09 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: padre35
But they have had no luck with it, if they do, Rove can take the 5th or whatever and it would turn into a “Rove, when did you stop beating your wife?” “I decline to answer...”

Why are they so afraid to answer questions? I want to know what they are hiding from us, we have a right to know.

87 posted on 05/25/2008 7:25:22 AM PDT by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: rodguy911

[Some estimates are 8-10 years with current rules and regs in play from drill to refinery.]

The 1100+ mile Alaska Highway was built much farther south in 1943 (IIRC) in 8 MONTHS.


88 posted on 05/25/2008 7:26:11 AM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Meet The Press is basically framing the election down to "what is wrong with Hillary and why she can't win." One can only wonder as to what the Clintonites feel about Maureen Dowd's beliefs about the Clintons now being coin of the realm.
89 posted on 05/25/2008 7:30:10 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: maica
I have watched over half of Fat tim on MTP(agonizingly so) and so far no mention of $4.00 gas. Guess it's not an issue the rats can win on any more time to ignore.

I wonder if the enviro/rats could get thrown under the bus?Nahhhh.....

90 posted on 05/25/2008 7:32:00 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: dbacks

Let me point out something unique.

Here in Delaware, not far from my house in fact, we actually DO have a refinery.

Since it already exists, the local citizenry, with some hysterical help from the RINO contingent I might add, are jumping through hoops to SHUT IT DOWN! This charge is led, not that anyone noticed, by a local lawyer....aren’t they always?

Seems there’s a sort of hysterical mindset that this refinery is somehow causing cancer rates in the area to skyrocket.

The local politicos, including the Dems, have commissioned all sorts of studies and so far, beyond some subset of citizens in the ages of 70-80 for some unusual form of cancer or another, there is NO greater incidence of cancer in this area than any damn where else in the U.S.

Interestingly, should anyone choose common sense as an option, this part of Delaware has been populated by an older population; a population which would have higher incidences of cancer not that we should be logical about it.

And don’t forget, mine own congress critter, Mike Castle, is President of Main Street Republicans, a group supported greatly by the fine George Soros. You read this right, Castle is a Republican, Delaware’s ONLY congress critter in the House so small is our state.

Castle voted AGAINST drilling in Anwar. And I’d lay dimes to donuts the average Delawarian, even those in the liberal north, would be quite happy to drill in Anwar. Castle did not represent his constituency....Castle represented HIMSELF!

Which is my argument as to why the pubbies don’t fight back against drilling here in the U.S. because they are financed by oil poohbahs who don’t want US to drill on our own land. We might not buy as much oil from THEM if we had our own oil.

It’s as simple as that. Follow the money. The American people would, if given a chance and after hearing all the pros and cons, probably vote in droves for this country to begin pulling our own oil out of the earth.

So why are the pubbies so silent on the matter?

We got to rid of these guys. THEY are the cancer.

Oh, and now that I think about it, my heart was just fine before I moved near that oil refinery.

Heh.


91 posted on 05/25/2008 7:33:00 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: grace522
Brilliant post--live free or die!
92 posted on 05/25/2008 7:33:13 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The Republicans should make a big fuss about how we’re not drilling for more oil, and doing it for the little guy who is hurting.

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We don’t even have to stress “the little guy.” Since our entire economy is based on smooth, just-in-time transportation for everything that we expect at our fingertips every day, we all are affected when the costs of transportation go up.

That has much more impact on everyone’s spending every day, while it is not as visible as our own gas fill-ups.


93 posted on 05/25/2008 7:33:22 AM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: rodguy911; MNJohnnie; All

“Some estimates are 8-10 years with current rules and regs in play from drill to refinery.”

And therein lies the problem.

The Enviro-weenies in collusion with the Democrat party have imposed so many regulations on the energy industry that it’s almost impossible to deliver to the consumer the energy they need from our own resources in anything close to a timely manner.


94 posted on 05/25/2008 7:33:28 AM PDT by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: carenot
IF these "questions" put forth by Congressional Dems were an attempt to get at the truth I'd agree with you completely....but they are most decidely NOT!

John Conyers (D-MI), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, who is leading the push, was overheard last week saying: “We’re closing in on Rove. Someone’s got to kick his ass.” See story--> Conyers: 'We're closing in on Rove'

Totally disgusting. It's all about political payback. It reeks of Stalinism and is completely anti-American. The dems are still bitter about Clinton's impeachment and Gore losing in 2000, and they simply want revenge. Makes me want to vomit!

95 posted on 05/25/2008 7:34:07 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

a charter document of the republicans right now, similar to the Contract With America

Drill our oil;

lower income tax rates to below capitol gain’s rate 15%


96 posted on 05/25/2008 7:34:23 AM PDT by Son House ( BMT ==>Babies, Military, Taxes: Just Say No To Democrats!)
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To: dbacks
Evidently in Anwar it's a different turf,real mooshy,from what I have been told.
97 posted on 05/25/2008 7:34:25 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The Republicans do not understand political warfare. They break out pie charts when they should be throwing political daggers. “Bush lied, people died” unfortunately works. We should engage in the same type of political combat.....but we don’t. By the way, we are correct on the issues.


98 posted on 05/25/2008 7:34:27 AM PDT by grace522
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To: rodguy911
One more idea for us to consider. 

The federal government could lease or sell abandoned military bases to companies willing to build new refineries.  These bases are pretty large so a refinery would not be an eyesore. 

It is one thing to get the oil but we still need new refineries to process that oil into gasoline and for use in other petroleum based products. 

 

99 posted on 05/25/2008 7:36:38 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriot.......)
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To: maica

Give it to Newt Gingrich. We can then start winning elections!


100 posted on 05/25/2008 7:37:24 AM PDT by grace522
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