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To: rawhide
I'm with you...The teacher did not handle this correctly but the article did say that the boy was in another school and had trouble in that school, too. I wonder if the parents investigated their son's behavior in the first school or simply changed to a different school? Even with IEP children, some parents are not very helpful in working with the school.

IMO, the problem stems from mainstreaming special needs kids. It helps neither the special need child (as we see here), nor the other students in the class. So much of the teacher's attention and time is devoted to the special needs child and preventing harm to other students.

In kindergarten, since the DX and IEP take time to establish, the lone teacher has no help in the classroom at all. A 20 to 1 ratio is NOT sufficient with a special needs child and no aide to help.

Everyone suffers.

93 posted on 05/25/2008 6:40:47 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: CAluvdubya
“IMO, the problem stems from mainstreaming special needs kids. It helps neither the special need child (as we see here), nor the other students in the class. So much of the teacher's attention and time is devoted to the special needs child and preventing harm to other students.

In kindergarten, since the DX and IEP take time to establish, the lone teacher has no help in the classroom at all. A 20 to 1 ratio is NOT sufficient with a special needs child and no aide to help.”

Until the kid is diagnosed, he's not mainstreamed. He is a regular part of the regular class. Once his diagnosis is confirmed, appropriate placement is determined. That can be anything from a regular class with only one teacher to a fully self-contained classroom with a very few students (I was offered a job in a class with 4 students, 2 aides, and me as the teacher).

As for the problem being with mainstreaming kids, think of it from this point of view for a moment: Do you want a kid in a classroom full of kids who don't behave well, learning their behaviors, or in a classroom where the other kids do behave well, to learn from them? There are pros and cons, but for most kids, it is more beneficial to the disabled child to see how how other normal kids act, and learn to imitate them.

And some will need to be pulled out of even a lab setting, and tranquilized. You've run into adults like that, in your life, I'm sure. I certainly have.

118 posted on 05/25/2008 8:13:05 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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