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Case goes to highest court
Go San Angelo ^ | May 24, 2008

Posted on 05/24/2008 7:29:58 PM PDT by TheDon

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The Child Protective Services motion said the appellate court acted "in excess of its power."

That's rich...

1 posted on 05/24/2008 7:29:58 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon

BTTT


2 posted on 05/24/2008 7:37:01 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: TheDon

CPS vs. FLDS.

If only they could both lose.


3 posted on 05/24/2008 7:37:05 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: TheDon

As far as I’m concerned, Texas is acting tyrannically and so the Texas State government has no right to function, except to undo the damage it has caused. If these children are not returned, the Texas State government has no right to exist.


4 posted on 05/24/2008 7:44:31 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: TheDon

They originally had 31 alleged underage mothers. Now it’s down to 5 alleged underage mothers. I can’t wait to see how this ends


5 posted on 05/24/2008 7:46:04 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Repeal 16-17

Amen, brother.


6 posted on 05/24/2008 7:50:13 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: TheDon

I bet there are some unhappy SC justices.


7 posted on 05/24/2008 7:52:46 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: TheDon

I pray that all the children get returned to their parents.. even if they have 4 mommies.. I don’t think thats a bad thing.. now having said that.. I’m not for statutory rape, or child abuse, or welfare fraud, or child brides.. but I’m not against one man loving and marrying as many adult women as he pleases.. its better than serial monogamy or having affairs.. yet society accepts these things as “normal”. Polygamy in and of itself is not a religion, it’s not abusive, it isn’t exclusive to FLDS or Muslims or any relgion, it’s not about sexual excess.. its about love.. and anyone who wants to research the truth about it can do so.. and not just by finding anti-polygamy websites. Flame away.


8 posted on 05/24/2008 8:03:20 PM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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I’m awe struck. Do you have....never mind. I don’t want to know.


9 posted on 05/24/2008 8:06:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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"Even if one views the FLDS belief system as creating a danger of sexual abuse by grooming boys to be perpetrators of sexual abuse and raising girls to be victims of sexual abuse there is no evidence that this danger is 'immediate' or 'urgent,' " the court said.

That 'immediate' in there is VERY important.

I may be wrong of course, but I believe that Texas state law says that the only reason that children can be taken away from their parents is due to "immediate danger" to the child's health and safety.

These children were in no immediate danger and I think the Supremes are going to rule in favor of the FLDS.

10 posted on 05/24/2008 8:44:15 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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To: CindyDawg

Better not ask...........


11 posted on 05/24/2008 8:46:48 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: TheDon

Just imagine the monetary damages that the state will have to cough up for this illegal raid, after it is all said and done. I imagine lawyers are lining up, even as I write this, to sue the CPS for their abuse of power.


12 posted on 05/24/2008 8:48:11 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

The FDLS mothers need to get in touch with the equivalent of the lawyers who took down Big Tobacco. The FDLS women need to sue the state of Texas big time. They haven’t been found to have been living off welfare, but with the lawsuit proceeds, will be living well off the rest of their lives.


13 posted on 05/24/2008 8:50:36 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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To: CindyDawg; Tennessee Nana
Yas know, these things change over time. It's what the law happens to be at any one time.

With so-called gay marriage back on the books in MA and CA, it can't possibly be that long before bigamy gets the same treatment and right behind that, polygamy.

At one time, slavery was legal, now it's illegal. At one time Jim Crowe laws were legal, now illegal. At one time, just 2-3 years ago, the age to marry in Texas was 14, now it's 16.

A lot of laws change with the political fashion.

14 posted on 05/24/2008 8:52:35 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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I may be wrong of course, but I believe that Texas state law says that the only reason that children can be taken away from their parents is due to "immediate danger" to the child's health and safety.

actually it includes immediate danger of abuse, which is defined in this statute:

261.001. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter: (1) "Abuse" includes the following acts or omissions by a person: (A) mental or emotional injury to a child that results in an observable and material impairment in the child's growth, development, or psychological functioning; (B) causing or permitting the child to be in a situation in which the child sustains a mental or emotional injury that results in an observable and material impairment in the child's growth, development, or psychological functioning; ---------- (E) sexual conduct harmful to a child's mental, emotional, or physical welfare, including conduct that constitutes the offense of continuous sexual abuse of young child or children.... (F) failure to make a reasonable effort to prevent sexual conduct harmful to a child; (G) compelling or encouraging the child to engage in sexual conduct as defined by Section 43.01, Penal Code; (H) causing, permitting, encouraging, engaging in, or allowing the photographing, filming, or depicting of the child if the person knew or should have known that the resulting photograph, film, or depiction of the child is obscene as defined by Section 43.21, Penal Code, or pornographic; Chapter 481, Health and Safety Code; (4) "Neglect includes: ------ (iv) placing a child in or failing to remove the child from a situation in which the child would be exposed to a substantial risk of sexual conduct harmful to the child; or (v) placing a child in or failing to remove the child from a situation in which the child would be exposed to acts or omissions that constitute abuse. The code includes any persons involved/responsible in the child's care, not necessarily just the parents.

With the cult's group living arrangement, this will likely apply to every child. Certain evidence was unavailable to the appeals court, but I imagine the Supremes will get it.

15 posted on 05/24/2008 8:56:24 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

This is Texas we are talking about:’)


16 posted on 05/24/2008 9:04:09 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

Do SC justices in TX stand election?


17 posted on 05/24/2008 9:07:18 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Repeal 16-17
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18 posted on 05/24/2008 9:14:19 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Awestruck

I’m not going to flame you, but thanks for posting that. It will give others here a little insight...
susie


19 posted on 05/24/2008 9:15:33 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: patton

Looks like it (I had to look it up)http://www.supreme.courts.state.tx.us/


20 posted on 05/24/2008 9:16:49 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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