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To: LeGrande; Grig

“LOL You are confused, Pigs to be hosed is your cabal term. “

Actually, you are the confused one. The “pigs to be hosed” term comes directly from a thread started by Grig. It had quite a number of Mormon signatories agreeing to the concept of hosing down the pig Gentiles. If there was ever a post that needed pulling, that was it, but it is an important reminder of who the real cabal is.

“Obviously your apology is not sincere and I am not an enabler. Your twisted logic is ludicrous. “

The apology was sincere, but you are still an enabler. That was my clarification.

“You are one confused individual. Did Nifong have evidence against the Duke Lacrosse team? Yes, he had eyewitnesses, DNA, victims, videos, police reports, etc. Howlin and I were among the first to question the actions of Nifong. Are you now going to accuse me of being a rapist enabler because I had the audacity to question Nifong’s actions?”

Nifong had evidence, but it was of poor quality and compromised numerous ways. The problem never was that he brought charges, but that he proceeded despite evidence to the contrary. There is 150 years of evidence regarding the FLDS and you know it - no rush to judgment here. The problem is not that you question the CPS actions, the problem is that you claim at each and every instance that the state is wrong when in fact the normal safeguards are well in place - that makes you an enabler. For anyone who believes the FLDS rights are being abused, watch this creepy video of grown women with the minds of 12 year olds.

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/21231/flds-polygamy-6


200 posted on 05/24/2008 12:07:22 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: FastCoyote
Nifong had evidence, but it was of poor quality and compromised numerous ways.

That is a damned lie. Nifong had no evidence whatsoever because there was none. He and his office, the Durham PD, and the Duke Administration conspired to FRAME innocent men. Look it up.

201 posted on 05/24/2008 12:17:47 PM PDT by abb (Organized Journalism: Marxist-style collectivism applied to information sharing)
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To: FastCoyote
Actually, you are the confused one. The “pigs to be hosed” term comes directly from a thread started by Grig. It had quite a number of Mormon signatories agreeing to the concept of hosing down the pig Gentiles. If there was ever a post that needed pulling, that was it, but it is an important reminder of who the real cabal is.

I am not familiar with your reference, I had another reference in mind, but I will agree that a lot of epithets get thrown around by both sides. I want it known that I proudly originated the Cabal reference here on FR : ) You do not have permission to change its reference.

The apology was sincere, but you are still an enabler. That was my clarification.

Including a false allegation within an apology is not a sincere apology.

Nifong had evidence, but it was of poor quality and compromised numerous ways. The problem never was that he brought charges, but that he proceeded despite evidence to the contrary. There is 150 years of evidence regarding the FLDS and you know it - no rush to judgment here. The problem is not that you question the CPS actions, the problem is that you claim at each and every instance that the state is wrong when in fact the normal safeguards are well in place - that makes you an enabler.

I like this version better.

CPS had evidence, but it was of poor quality and compromised numerous ways. The problem never was that CPS abducted kid, but that the CPS proceeded despite evidence to the contrary. There is 150 years of evidence regarding rape and you know it - no rush to judgment here.

Wasn't that better?

The problem is not that you question the CPS actions, the problem is that you claim at each and every instance that the state is wrong when in fact the normal safeguards are well in place - that makes you an enabler.

Did the normal safeguards work? That is the question. Does the CPS have the right to take adults? No In fact it is a Federal crime punishable by death. Did the CPS have the right to keep the children that it took? No according the appeals court. Have the children been returned? No The CPS adamantly refuses to obey the courts order.

If the CPS workers are convicted of kidnapping, under the Color of Law and sentenced to death, then yes I will agree that the safeguards worked. Would you be willing to place a little bet on the possibility of that outcome? I didn't think so. The system protects its own and the system is clearly broken.

Accusing me of being an enabler because I like to point out the failings of our government is ludicrous in the extreme.

For anyone who believes the FLDS rights are being abused, watch this creepy video of grown women with the minds of 12 year olds.

This is a perfect example of why you are confused. For some reason you seem to think that if someone abuses someone else s rights that it is OK for the government to abuse their rights. This is exactly the type of thinking that causes us to lose our rights.

Do you understand that the Government is not using Criminal law, they are using Civil law to imprison these children? They are punishing the children for the alleged Crimes of their parents without charging their parents with any crime.

If this precedent is allowed to stand, our constitutional rights will have been lost. From then on, everyone will be prosecuted Civilly, where you have to testify against yourself. You don't have a right of privacy, in fact you have no constitutional protections at all. Is that the kind of country that you want to live in? Has your hatred of the FLDS blinded you to the bigger picture?

The glorious fact is that in a free society, people are free to do and believe things that you may find abhorrent. I find your beliefs to be abhorrent and repulsive, for the sake of living in a Free Country though, I am willing to support your right to have your evil, twisted beliefs. I would rather a dozen guilty men walk free than an innocent man go to jail. To have a free society we have to error on the side of freedom. Will innocent people get hurt? Yes. Will the guilty walk free sometimes? Yes. A free society is not perfect, but it is a lot better than any of the alternatives, especially yours FastCoyote.

211 posted on 05/24/2008 1:22:26 PM PDT by LeGrande
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