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And there are MILLIONS of us.

This brings to mind an "interesting" discussion I had with a neighbor of mine some weeks ago. We agreed that there were many of us willing to send forth issuance of "deadly force" in the direction of doors splintering inward at 0200 in the morning. It's fairly agreed that there's no shortage of people with this attitude, especially in more rural places.

But that's not the question. What divides us is the moral question as to whether or not we're willing to fire on a group who is kicking in the door of the neighbor's house at 0200...whether they be common criminals, or the "sanctioned" variety. THIS is where my neighbor faltered.

Sure. Everybody is willing to fight and die at home, for what we want to keep, and for those living in our homes. But too few are willing to fight and potentially loose it all for another man just two doors down.

This is what will be our downfall. The numbers of people who are willing are too few.

I've pondered the fact that there are millions of armed Americans. But survey those who own guns and take a poll as to who has more than a "couple of boxes" of ammo. Only the "fringe" is keeping enough for an actual encounter, and fewer than that are operating effectively with regards to good logistics practices. Fewer than that know anything about CQB or squad tactics, or are only "moderately" proficient with their weapon of choice. A small 7 man ATF or LEO team which is trained and equipped is beyond the ability of the vast majority of the millions of American gun owners to handle in any way, shape or form. My neighbor spoke indignantly when he told me he'd shoot anybody that came to break his door down in the wee hours of the morning. I smiled and told him that he probably wouldn't make it out of bed...much less to the dark closet without lights (they'll cut the power), to locate his weapon and defend the place. The "intruders" will have done proper intel and surveillance and will have the whole operation all mapped out and everybody will be on the floor in tie-straps, and half naked within about 4 minutes IF that. He looked at me angrily and said, "Oh yeah!? We'll I'll get one of them!" I told him that he probably wouldn't, even though it might make him feel better to fire blindly in the dark before one of the operators fired a burst at his muzzle flash.

I saw my neighbor react to the truth, which is that most American gun owners are really rather helpless attempting to fight this system individually and by the "rules"....which as we all know, only apply to the peasant citizenry.

The bottom line is this. We're faced with tyranny in our lifetimes. The nature of it is aggressive and eventually, we'll all be effected by it to one degree or another. But eventually, unless "some" of those millions of gun owners join in a manner which shows that they're an actual force to be reckoned with, and not some useless statistic as oft quoted by the NRA, then they'll be "handled" house by house by the likes of SRTs and "operators" in the employment of our various and illustrious "alphabet agencies".

Somebody is sure to tell me to speak for myself (as if I can do anything else!). But down inside, everybody knows that these things I write are true. Everybody's willing to fight their own little civil war on their own property, and in their own houses... but not two doors down.

It doesn't have to be that people are willing to start by firing on purveyors of tyranny who are attempting to hurt a neighbor. People need to start by simply CARING about that neighbor! But we as Americans are too fat, lazy, and materialistic to give a damn about neighbors anymore. That's the most definite impression that I get with the vast majority of people who live in populated places.

I don't have a lot of hope for the situation personally. I base this on the mindless masses who live in population centers and subscribe to leftist ideas about the very tenants of human nature, and how to deal with it effectively. They've got it all wrong, and they continue to handle it wrongly (to OUR detriment!), in spite of historical evidence. They're either stupid, sick, retarded, or a combination thereof.

Until these attitudes and philosophies shift gentlemen, we will remain a very small, and relatively powerless minority with a very big problem on our hands.

Wow hh, you had me glued to the monitor, your 'truths' are a very realistic scenario...I figure when push comes to shove, in my own house, I may get lucky and drop a couple, but I know when they come...I'm DEAD...

I pray that my family will be spared, and that in the above scenario its not Mrs. G or baby Victoria that get dead while Im out some night...God would need to have mercy of the INDIVIDUAL thugs, cause I would make it my purpose in life to send em to hell...

They're either stupid, sick, retarded, or a combination thereof.

then I almost spewed coffee cross the keyboard...

But we as Americans are too fat, lazy, and materialistic [ie SPOILEDBRATS] to give a damn about neighbors anymore. That's the most definite impression that I get with the vast majority of people who live in populated places.

since moving to the 'sticks' [and trying to listen to the Lord Jesus ] Ive gotten much better about looking beyond my own fenceline for trouble...itd be nice if more would do the same...

Hope the sun is shinin on the 'compound'...gonna be a remarkable 3 day weekend of weather here...