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McCain on 'DeGeneres Show': Marriage Between Man, Woman
Newsmax ^ | May 22, 2008 | Rick Pedraza

Posted on 05/22/2008 6:13:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Presidential hopeful Sen. John McCain, long opposed to gay marriage and even civil unions, appeared on Thursday’s "The Ellen DeGeneres Show,” saying that he disagrees with the California decision, but wishes her all the best as she makes plans to walk down the aisle with girlfriend, actress Portia de Rossi.

DeGeneres tried to sway McCain’s opinion by explaining to the senator that she views the issue in the same way as when blacks and women didn’t have the right to vote.

“Women just got the right to vote in 1920, and blacks didn’t have the right to vote until 1870,” she noted, adding, “It just feels like there’s this old way of thinking that we are not all the same. We are all the same . . . You’re no different than I am.”

“I’ve heard you articulate that position in a very eloquent fashion,” McCain countered. “I just believe in the unique status of marriage between man and woman, and I know that we have a respectful disagreement on that issue; and I along with many, many others wish you every happiness.”

At times looking uncomfortable, McCain acknowledged the necessity of partnerships for legal agreements: “I think people should be able to enter into legal agreements. And I think that it is something we should encourage, particularly in the case of insurance and other areas where decisions have to be made.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; ca2008; degeneres; election; elections; homosexualagenda; issues; mccain; samesexmarriage
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Now she’s pushing the gay marriage crap. Ellen, just stick to showbiz and stop promoting militant homosexuality that did Rosie in, OK?

Rosie did Rosie in, but a good point nonetheless. Should Ellen keep this up, Bravo may be a more suitable (read: only gig she could get) network.


21 posted on 05/22/2008 7:05:44 PM PDT by Das Outsider ("There's nothing so odd about that: Kemal Ataturk had an entire menagerie named 'Abdul!'")
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To: Paleo Conservative
Why bother appearing on the The Ellen DeGenerate Show?

It's about reaching around out.

22 posted on 05/22/2008 7:06:48 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; keats5

>How often do democrats go on Rush Limbaugh or Fox News?

Wasn’t Hillary herself just on Fox with O’Rielly?


23 posted on 05/22/2008 7:07:00 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, at least McCain could be assured that Miss DeGeneres would be polite. From what I’ve heard about her, she is a very nice woman.


24 posted on 05/22/2008 7:08:54 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: ncalburt

You lot are going to have to do better than scare tactics.


25 posted on 05/22/2008 7:16:35 PM PDT by Doohickey (SSN-681; SSN-671; SSN-669; SSN-712)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“I’ve heard you articulate that position in a very eloquent fashion,” McCain countered. “I just believe in the unique status of marriage between man and woman, and I know that we have a respectful disagreement on that issue; and I along with many, many others wish you every happiness.”

Oh, wonderful. This REEKS of RINO-ism. Meet them halfway. Try to reach out and be friennnnnnnds and compassssssssionate and understaaaaaaaanding and have dialllllllllogue.

Ptooey!!

We are at moral war, folks. We need someone unflinching and unapologetically bedrock, and not afraid to ruffle their feathers if we have to, when and even if directly in their faces.

26 posted on 05/22/2008 7:19:00 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Single-term "President OBAMA" will bring an amazing REBIRTH of G.O.P. CONSERVATIVISM to this country)
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To: Doohickey
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Are you listening to what he and his radical wife have said or are you just ignoring there comments. Obama ands his wife are preaching socialism and radical wealth redistribution . He said this weekend, American are not going to be able to drive there SUVs,cool there homes to 72 , and eat what they want when he comes to power. Then he said on CNBC that he was going to tax capital gains based on what he felt was FAIR ! Michele is preaching that people are not going to be sitting around w if Obama is in power. Then she said that some people are going to have to give up there piece of the pie so others can have it !He will require them to active !
Those are radical socialists rants and the same crap as his comrades Castro, Chavez, and Ayers have promoted .
So be scared, YOU should be !

27 posted on 05/22/2008 7:35:49 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: stravinskyrules

The MSM environment for GOP is always toxic.


28 posted on 05/22/2008 7:36:15 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This was obviously an attempt by McCain to appeal to the White/Catholic/Won’t Vote For A Minority wing of the Democrat Party. He believes if he can appear reasonable to these people (i.e., the anti-Fawell), he can get their vote. Might work, in this climate.


29 posted on 05/22/2008 7:37:10 PM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: ncalburt

Did Obama or his wife say how they hoped to implement all of these radical changes? Unless he’s planning some kind of coup that makes him dictator I don’t know how he expects to achieve any of what he’s blabbing on about. Stop people from cooling their homes? I don’t know who’s worse, both he and mccain are saying some wacky things lately so it’s going to come down to re-electing conservatives in the House and the Senate because no matter who wins the presidency we’re going to have a nut in the White House.


30 posted on 05/22/2008 7:47:17 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: ncalburt

So if McCain can’t earn a person’s vote then it is that person who is to blame if Obama wins?

That would imply that you feel that our votes are owed to McCain.

That is utterly foolish.


31 posted on 05/22/2008 7:53:30 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO cuz I'm too conservative to be a Republican. McCain is the Conservatives true litmus test)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Oh come on ,MCCain is not a radical socialist or planning radical wealth redistribution. The Dem will control all three branches of govt. The dem party can radicalized the US beyond anything you can imagine. They want to run our daily lives. WE are the enemy to OBama, his wife ,and the Dem socialist. McCain is not a conservative but he is pro life, pro guns, pro military, and anti- socialized medicine . Obama , his wife, and the leftist dem party HATE the US and everything it stands for .


32 posted on 05/22/2008 8:01:20 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

There is an all encompassing conservative position (that I always articulate) that is agreed to by most conservatives from Libertarian to “social conservatives”.

McCain could have countered with it without needing to “defend” a seemingly “social conservative” position.

When DeGeneres mentioned women’s right to vote and the civil war amendments McCain SHOULD HAVE SAID:

Yes, but WE THE PEOPLE MADE THOSE CHANGES BY AMENDING THE CONSTITUTION and NO JUDGE ASSUMED BACK THEN THAT THEY COULD SIMPLY DICTATE THOSE CHANGES TO THE PEOPLE.

And he could have added: Those changes were brought about by mandates produced by representatives the people elected, but in every case so far the “gay marriage” mandate has been dictated by judges against popular majorities that opposed it.

And he could have finished with: The popular mandate that comes up from the people to produce constitutional change produces changes that quickly become accepted and stable. Mandates, like abortion and “gay marriage”, when simply dictated by judges produce endless division in the country, they do not settle an issue in the long run, because the judges dictates do not have the legitimacy of the mandate that starts with our Constitution’s first words: “We The People”.

I should copyright this or get a GOP convention spot to explain it to the American people.


33 posted on 05/22/2008 8:02:34 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: stravinskyrules

Agree. Bush shot himself in the foot by avoiding the mainstream media.


34 posted on 05/22/2008 8:05:23 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Celebrate economic diversity.)
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To: Xenalyte

“From what I’ve heard about her, she is a very nice woman.”

I see Ellen’s show (without sound) during my workout at the health club. She sure can dance. And yes, she seems very congenial.


35 posted on 05/22/2008 8:08:28 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Celebrate economic diversity.)
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To: Eagle Eye
What ? No I am warning you that that Obama and his radical gang consider all of us the ENEMY and they will hut us all up once they get power. You can ignore every radical comment coming out of his mouth and nit pick every thing MCCain says but MCCain does not Hate this country or its history or its military power But Obama DOES and he plans to reshape this great country into a socialist hell hole . He will have control over all three branches of govt to make it happen.So please go back to you McCain bashing so Obama and Moveon.org and Soros and Penny Pritzker can plan the radical redistribution of the US power and wealth .
36 posted on 05/22/2008 8:08:49 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: ncalburt
Oh come on ,MCCain is not a radical socialist or planning radical wealth redistribution.

No he just wants to give all the illegal aliens amnesty and is practically calling for a merger between North and South America. Like I said, they both suck but we're going to be stuck with one of them. Our energy should really be focused on re-electing the many good conservatives that are still in the House and Senate because I've got a feeling we're going to need all the opposition we can muster.

37 posted on 05/22/2008 8:20:27 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Sorry I did not answer you question. Yes Michele OBama made the “Piece of the Pie” speech in PA. In S Cal she gave the people are going to “forced to be active citizen” speech within Obama in the WH. Obama will have a radical MOveon.org left wing congress to be able to make any changes he wants . He will control the SEC, FCC, Justice dept, federal judges , etc... The Dem in Congress are rewriting the House rules as we post. The tried to intentionally submit a bill to the President without including 36 pages of new laws and got upset when thhye got caught . The dem drove Joe Lieberman out of the dem part and he was the VP nominee in 2000. Obam and the Radical dem Congress plan to radicalize the USA if they have the power.
38 posted on 05/22/2008 8:28:14 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
what merger of S and N America ? Are talking about the Columbian trade bill ? That is a bill meant to stabilize the central america. You better pray it Mccain wins because the Moveon.org Congress with a Moveon.org Obama will shut us all up real quick . The radical left will have the power over the SEC, FCC, Courts, Justice dept,and they can pretty much do what they want !The first thing the left does is shut up the opposition and make sure they never regain power. Just look what happen to Venezuela with Hugo.
The same could happen here easier than you realize.
39 posted on 05/22/2008 8:37:59 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: ncalburt

Forgot to add. I agree more conservatives are needed in Congress.


40 posted on 05/22/2008 8:44:53 PM PDT by ncalburt
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