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To: SamuraiScot; fr_freak
I don't claim to know what happened, since I wasn't there. None of us probably ever will. The recollections are definitely mixed and will vary depending who's telling the story. The article you cite is from The Jewish Forward, so obviously they're going to bias it that way. Maybe it is word for what happened, but we'll never know, and I still find it troubling that the motorist was taken away while leaving the children behind. I understand there was an angry mob, but police were already on the scene, and I don't see why they couldn't have taken the kids too.

Also, why is it a hate-Whitey lie? I guess Jews are technically white, but are often considered a minority. The PC police certainly seem to think so anyway, being very quick to yell "anti-Semite!" at people.
14 posted on 05/22/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
I still find it troubling that the motorist was taken away while leaving the children behind. I understand there was an angry mob, but police were already on the scene, and I don't see why they couldn't have taken the kids too.

Are you unfamiliar with accident scenes? First Aid, as any Red Cross CPR course will emphasize, is a logistical art. The basic facts concerning the ambulances used at Crown Heights are not in dispute. (The only variation in the accounts had to do with Al Sharpton's speculation about everyone's motives but his own.)

If someone is injured, you get him away from the scene as soon as you safely can. The more people crowded and sprawled at an accident scene, the worse. Another car could hit the disabled vehicles, people, or emergency personnel, compounding the crisis. Never mind the danger from hundreds of emotional idiots in the crowd. Protocol is to take the more seriously injured person first—if he can be moved right away. Which the Cato kids could not.

If someone has a car parked on him, he must be extracted with extreme focus and care. You often need special equipment. If you need another ambulance, you get one. In a city, there are lots of them. This is utterly routine. Another ambulance indeed arrived immediately, and got the kids out right away. The first ambulance leaving with the injured Jewish driver had zero effect on how long the black kids were under the car.

I know you're trying to be even-handed and sensitive, but please forgive me for saying you're being a sucker. You may understandably have trouble fathoming the absolute cynicism of urban operators like Sharpton, who spun the story about the City's alleged indifference, and whose only business is to prey upon victims of circumstance like little Gavin Cato. By his inflammatory speeches and appearances, Sharpton leverages other people's suffering to extract guilty corporate donations to his own foundation, the National Action Network, which pays his rent and buys his suits. "Reverend" Sharpton has no congregation and no other business. This is what he does.

If you think the mainstream media is always waiting to cry "anti-Semite," that has not applied in New York since at least the 1960s. Blackness, and more recently Moslem-ness, easily trump Jewishness in the victim stakes. Religious Jews are "worse than white," utterly despised by media people—because they are mostly conservative.

It's understandable. You're confused because you're trying to apply logic and reasonable motives to Leftists. Relax. It can't be done.

18 posted on 05/22/2008 7:15:57 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
but police were already on the scene, and I don't see why they couldn't have taken the kids too.

Because the kids were still under the car, and there were city ambulances on the scene. Why would you delay the private, yes Jewish ambulance, from heading for the hospital when city ambulances and personel are on the scene?

I understand why Rev Al made an issue of it.

20 posted on 05/22/2008 7:31:27 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
I guess Jews are technically white, but are often considered a minority

BTW, many Jews would disagree.


21 posted on 05/22/2008 7:37:36 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
The article you cite is from The Jewish Forward, so obviously they're going to bias it that way.

Actually The Forward is a ferociously anti-religious rag, they will bias anything against the Hasidics.

25 posted on 05/22/2008 7:53:50 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Excuse me but what does your account (not that it is accurate) have to do with the killing of Yankel Rosenbaum who was nowhere near the scene of the accident?

What does that hve to do with the uncurbed riots and crime that the Dinkins administration allowed to rage - black on Jew violence - for days?

And your account of the police is wrong too. The police have refused to call the latest incident anti-Semitism. News reports I have heard (Channel 11) referred to the prior incident thus: “A Jewish man killed a black child.” They did not even say it was a car accident.

Is your high estimation of the MSM applicable to Conservative issues as well?


33 posted on 05/22/2008 8:48:22 PM PDT by dervish (Why is the post-racial candidate drawing 90+ percent of the Black vote?)
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