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Court: Texas had no right to take polygamists' kids 3 minutes ago
AP via Yahoo ^ | 5/22/08

Posted on 05/22/2008 10:46:31 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

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To: atruelady

The appeals court didn’t see it your way or the lower court’s way.


521 posted on 05/22/2008 3:52:15 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: steve86
But I think it's very possible that the mothers were under undue influence/coercion from the men, and with the males out of the picture the threat evaporates.

What makes you think the men are "out of the picture?" Those women that are adults are free to return to the the ranch and the men, and those that are not will likely be returned to their parents. Many of the men have been at least visiting those few women allowed to stay with their young children. Those with only older children have not been allowed to stay with their children, unless they themselves were deemed children by CPS.

Men have been interviewed with and without their wives. No men have been charged with any crimes, except two, who were less than cooperative with the law enforcement and CPS staff who took their children away. The charges were minor and while I don't *know*, I'd expect those two bailed out pretty quickly. I'd also expect those charges to be dropped, now that more facts have come to light.

I mean, wouldn't you be less than cooperative when they came to take your legal adult wife away, or to take your children away when you know you'd not violated any law or done anything that you knew was wrong? I know I would be. Applies to my grandkids too.

522 posted on 05/22/2008 3:52:20 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

It is common knowledge that no one from the compound received outside medical help. There is a doctor under investigation right now.

So CPS is always wrong, OK...nothing to see here.


523 posted on 05/22/2008 3:52:29 PM PDT by atruelady
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To: atruelady

It’s not over yet. The SC IMO needs to act fast though. If they agree let’s be done with it and repair the damage. If they disagree though they need to rule soon to stop the momentum. If CPS hasn’t filed yet they need to do so ASAP. Either way...get it over with.


524 posted on 05/22/2008 3:52:49 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: atruelady
The information provided to obtain the warrant and affidavits are public knowledge. There are links on this thread and others. Look it up. I am not going to hold your hand. I have read the info. You have not.

Yes, and everything was based on the initial LIE!

525 posted on 05/22/2008 3:53:04 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: tobyhill

Yes they did slam it. It was outrageous what they did, and defended on a conservative website nonetheless.


526 posted on 05/22/2008 3:53:13 PM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out. All three of them.)
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To: atruelady

Who compared? Someone posted a general statement that 12-year-olds were getting pregnant, and I was giving a specific example.

BTW, my example is a good one to show how you don’t have to grow up brainwashed in a cult to think having a child will make you “grown-up” and give your life purpose.


527 posted on 05/22/2008 3:53:27 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MinorityRepublican

Maybe not but he plays one here.


528 posted on 05/22/2008 3:54:45 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: lady lawyer

Thank you.


529 posted on 05/22/2008 3:55:14 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: atruelady
The DNA tests will blow the appellate court ruling out of the water because the ruling should have no effect. Again...I amazed that the court makes a ruling on an incomplete investigation involving child abuse.

Would you like to make a wager? Did you know that the majority of the DNA tests are in? LOL I can hardly believe the ignorance of some people.

530 posted on 05/22/2008 3:56:42 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: RightWhale

“How is Elian doing these days?”

He had a chemical lobotomy.


531 posted on 05/22/2008 3:58:38 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: LeGrande

Actually it is quite fascinating how they keep repeating rumor, lies, and misinformation in a hypeventalating manner as if it changes fact. Goebbels would be proud.


532 posted on 05/22/2008 3:58:44 PM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out. All three of them.)
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To: LeGrande

Do you have a link about the DNA? I figured they ought to be coming back but I hadn’t heard that yet.


533 posted on 05/22/2008 3:58:53 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: atruelady
How nice for you to thwart the real issue here.

Not sure what you're talking about. I've said over and over again the men should be separated from the children (and were). I've also said there didn't appear to me reason to separate the babies and young children from the mothers at this stage (and there isn't).

534 posted on 05/22/2008 3:59:08 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: commonguymd

April 29, 2008. The spokeman for FDLS said she is 18 but even the doctors acknowledge that she is younger.

Does anyone wonder why girls at the controlled compound are even having kids? Mainstream society has a lot of teen mother but this place is supposed to be so controlled that girls cannot talk to the boys that are there (very few...the ratio is terrible).

This is a pedophile’s breeding ground with more and more girl kids provided for the sickos.


535 posted on 05/22/2008 3:59:11 PM PDT by atruelady
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To: atruelady

I’ll give you one set of examples.

CPS said there were 53 girls between 14 and 17, and that 31 of them were pregnant.

Since they said that, they have now admitted that 11 of those “girls” were actually adults, and that the 14-year-old was never pregnant.

And reports were they had to admit today that another 8 of the mothers were adults.

If correct, that means instead of the “31 our of 53” number, we are now down to 11 out of 33.

In the appeals court ruling, they listed all the things the CPS had asserted but that they had offered no evidence for. It was a long list.


536 posted on 05/22/2008 3:59:22 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: atruelady

And what does you living here to have to do with anything?

Do you not want our system of justice to work? Do you have links/proof of welfare abuse or payments to the FLDS members of YFZ ranch, Eldorado, TX?


537 posted on 05/22/2008 3:59:58 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: atruelady

Give me the link and then read the ruling where they acknowledged they were wrong.


538 posted on 05/22/2008 4:00:03 PM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out. All three of them.)
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To: atruelady
Are you forgetting that a girl believed to be only 14 had a baby that is now in state custody. The father won’t come forward and the mother won’t divulge the bio-father.

Wrong! The 14 year old is neither pregnant nor does she have a baby. You really should learn not to repeat the lies from the CPS.

539 posted on 05/22/2008 4:00:18 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: CharlesWayneCT

How do you know they aren’t underage? Because FDLS says so? Tell them to provide the birth certificates. There are NONE!


540 posted on 05/22/2008 4:00:24 PM PDT by atruelady
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