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Anti-gun Promo Blackfires
Mens News Daily ^ | May 21, 2008 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 05/22/2008 8:54:37 AM PDT by holymoly

The lamestream media told you:

Gun deaths and gun violence are a national scourge that must be met with strict common-sense gun laws, to prevent rampant violence in society. Everyone is affected, so everyone must be subject to controls.

The Uninvited Ombudsman notes however that:

In an effort to prove the “news” myth paraphrased above, The Baltimore Sun, which features standard anti-gun-rights bias in its reporting, published an interactive map of homicides in the Baltimore area.

Unfortunately for its inventors, the map only confirms what rights advocates have been declaring for decades — it’s not a gun problem, it’s a demographic problem — with social, economic and geographic components the political community refuses to admit. If they did, the fundamentally demographic nature of the enigma would emerge, and despite the horrifying facts, they would risk being called bad names.

The maps say it all. The data sets here are for all of 2007, Baltimore area, all forms of homicide (blue is choking, green is blunt force, red is shooting, black is stabbing, white is undetermined).

And don’t shoot me, I’m only the messenger, blame the newspaper for letting the dirty little secret out — it’s not a gun or murder problem, it’s a demographic problem.

These Baltimore Sun maps show a terrible problem but do not clarify who the murderers are.

Baltimore Sun map of PEOPLE murdered, 2007:

Baltimore Sun map of BLACKS murdered, 2007:

Baltimore Sun map of WHITES murdered, 2007:

“The lack of diversity is blatant and appalling,” said one unidentified observer. Another suggested the results could reflect the city’s makeup, but whites outnumber blacks there by more than two to one (3.5MM to 1.6MM). You can pick your own data and see the Baltimore Sun’s results, for time periods, races, ages, homicide types, genders and more. Play with the map yourself, it’s fun.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: backfire; baltimore; banglist; liberalmedia; urban
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To: Boonie

So true.


41 posted on 05/22/2008 10:18:08 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: SeaHawkFan

I wonder what they do? Make sur there’s at least one white person in each room with two Blacks?


42 posted on 05/22/2008 10:20:29 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: holymoly
I found a website a couple weeks back where you can do this with any city and the results are all like Baltimore. It's a (cough) 'demographic problem', not a gun problem.

I thought I bookmarked it now I can't find it arrrrrgh!

43 posted on 05/22/2008 11:24:12 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: holymoly

If you breakdown the number of people killed by cyclones or tsunamis by race, you could conclude that mother nature is a genocidal maniac.


44 posted on 05/22/2008 11:43:26 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: holymoly
I found it (I think).
Its part of Google Maps, an add-on like distance measuring tool.

It has Crimes for the major cities. I just added Chicago to my Google map extras. Haven't tried it yet.

45 posted on 05/22/2008 12:12:52 PM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: holymoly

No politician would admit to the demographic base of crime statistics directly. Indirectly however, they do promote redling cities to target blacks’ second amendment rights just as they have since antibellum times.

Unfortunately this impacts the rights of non-blacks.

One could come up with the same maps for any urban city with similar demographics.

Thus they have turned to the strawmen arguement of gun control.


46 posted on 05/22/2008 4:16:25 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Truthism Watch)
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To: Joe Brower

Bang


47 posted on 05/23/2008 7:57:19 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: holymoly

Unfortunately for its inventors, the map only confirms what rights advocates have been declaring for decades — it’s not a gun problem, it’s a demographic problem — with social, economic and geographic components the political community refuses to admit. If they did, the fundamentally demographic nature of the enigma would emerge, and despite the horrifying facts, they would risk being called bad names.


"... And there is a sense in which violence is a public health problem. So let me illustrate the limitations of this line of reasoning with a public-health analogy.

After research disclosed that mosquitos were the vector for transmission of yellow fever, the disease was not controlled by sending men in white coats to the swamps to remove the mouth parts from all the insects they could find. The only sensible, efficient way to stop the biting was to attack the environment where the mosquitos bred.

Guns are the mouth parts of the violence epidemic. The contemporary urban environment breeds violence no less than swamps breed mosquitos. Attempting to control the problem of violence by trying to disarm the perpetrators is as hopeless as trying to contain yellow fever through mandible control..."

-- James D. Wright, PhD, Bad Guys, Bad Guns, Nat'l Rev., March 6, 1995, at 51


48 posted on 05/23/2008 8:04:49 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
49 posted on 05/23/2008 8:49:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: holymoly

You could pick most any large liberal city and get the same results. I bet we won’t see any of those maps anymore.


50 posted on 05/23/2008 9:05:35 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: wideawake

“In other words, African-American males between 18 and 50 are 13% of Baltimore’s population and are 78% of Baltimore’s homicide victims.”

These are BLATANTLY racist FACTS!!!!!!


51 posted on 05/23/2008 9:33:27 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: holymoly
I live in the city limits of Baltimore (The "City that Breeds"), have numerous guns, and, as you can see, it is a safe haven around where I live.

Baltimore Homicides don't happen around my house!

52 posted on 05/23/2008 9:37:55 AM PDT by k012957 (Find out what sucks. Don't do that!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Going on a suggestion someone made earlier, the rational thing for an anti-gunner to want here would be to make gun ownership illegal for blacks.

That's pretty much how modern gun laws got started in 1968.

53 posted on 05/23/2008 9:43:45 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: holymoly

This reminds me that I need to order the next season of “The Wire” from Netflix.


54 posted on 05/23/2008 9:48:59 AM PDT by G L Tirebiter
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To: k012957

You know there ARE break-in artists who specialize in gun theft.


55 posted on 05/23/2008 9:49:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: G L Tirebiter

I recall hearing Mark Steyn make the observation that outside a small percentage of inner-city zip codes the United States was a more peaceful and crime free nation than virtually any other Western nation.


56 posted on 05/23/2008 9:54:48 AM PDT by G L Tirebiter
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To: ZULU
These are BLATANTLY racist FACTS!!!!!!

It's really tragic.

As I slice the numbers up some more, I see that in 2007 African-American males between the ages of 18 and 35 constitute 7.5% of the Baltimore population and 66% of 2007's Baltimore homicide victims.

It so obviously has nothing to do with the accessibility of firearms, but everything to do with the pathological behavior of young African-American men.

It would be interesting to go through the cases of each of the 186 murdered young black men and see what the motives were. They were likely three: a few muggings, more drug disputes and most of all, revenge for insults.

57 posted on 05/23/2008 9:58:15 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: G L Tirebiter
Good point. If you look at the Baltimore map, about two-thirds of the murders took place in a 2 mile radius that comprises about 10% of the city's area.

Someone could put together a pretty comprehensive policing plan that could eliminate half the murders efficiently.

I would guess that two thirds of the city's murders take place between dusk and 2 a.m. within a pretty tight geographical grid.

58 posted on 05/23/2008 10:05:45 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: RockinRight; B4Ranch
this isn't something that can be blamed on Whitey...

afirmative action is purely white guilt...resulting in a power base/prison camp from the selling of the treasury...

Top it off with the WOsD and the $$$s possible for the bootleggers, and you have every major city become a very dangerous place to do 'bitniz'...

59 posted on 05/23/2008 10:07:13 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: wideawake

Misplaced machismo. Fine for the 1600’s but out of place here.

The real culprit has been years of social liberal programs which destroyed what was left of the black family after slavery had already adversely impacted that institution.

It doesn’t take a village to raise a kid. It takes a mother and father in a loving and caring nuclear family. And that is what is absent in many instances in the modern black family in America. Just as drugs had its start in America in the Black Community and later moved into the White Community, the same thing is happening with deteriorating family structures. Undesireable social problems frequently first manifest themselves among those at the lower end of the income scale. But inevitably they encompass all of society.


60 posted on 05/23/2008 10:16:32 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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