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Anti-gun Promo Blackfires
Mens News Daily ^ | May 21, 2008 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 05/22/2008 8:54:37 AM PDT by holymoly

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To: RockinRight

Yep. And the govt might do well to rearrange the system (particularly welfare) to favor two-parent households and marriage, but of course that would be favoring those over the children of single parents, and that wouldn’t be fair to the chillllldren.


21 posted on 05/22/2008 9:16:55 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Uh...fight SCD. Schwa Collapse Disorder is spreading. Save the a word. Just say uh.)
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To: holymoly

Gang bangers/drug dealers killing each other is not much of a concern for me. Innocent bystanders are different.


22 posted on 05/22/2008 9:23:44 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: holymoly

Hey, lets REALLY yank the chain of the libs .......

Lets propose that we ban possession of guns by blacks.

[/sarc]


23 posted on 05/22/2008 9:23:52 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Lancey Howard
“The lack of diversity is blatant and appalling,” said one unidentified observer.

So that begs the question: when are black folks going to stop killing black folks?

24 posted on 05/22/2008 9:24:56 AM PDT by subterfuge (changed tagline just for this thread..........)
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To: subterfuge

That’s what I don’t get when blacks try to blame their own much higher incarceration on racism, i.e., they claim whites commit as many crimes but get away with it...

...so where are all the dead murdered white people? Or, is there some phantom white gang going around murdering all these blacks and not being seen?


25 posted on 05/22/2008 9:26:58 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: holymoly
Thank you for posting this.

It is amazing.

There are 640,000 people in Baltimore. 405,000 are African-American.

Of that number 189,000 are African-American males (female-to-male ratio in Baltimore is 100:87.4).

Of that number, approximately 132,000 are African-American males under age 50 and approximately 85,000 of that number are African-American males between the ages of 18 and 50.

There were 282 homicides in Baltimore in 2007.

According to the map, 264 of the homicide victims were African-American, 248 of the homicide victims were African-American males, 242 of the homicide victims were African-American males under age 50 and 221 of the homicide victims were African-American males between the ages of 18 and 50.

In other words, African-American males between 18 and 50 are 13% of Baltimore's population and are 78% of Baltimore's homicide victims.

That means that approximately one out of every twelve 18 year old African-American males in the city of Baltimore can expect to be murdered by another African-American male before he reaches age 50.

26 posted on 05/22/2008 9:30:07 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: messierhunter; RockinRight

See post 26.


27 posted on 05/22/2008 9:32:37 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
That means that approximately one out of every twelve 18 year old African-American males in the city of Baltimore can expect to be murdered by another African-American male before he reaches age 50.

Based on demographics and statistics I've seen, I'd expect a similar statistic for the likelyhood of an 18 year old African-American male to BE a murderer...and guess what...this isn't something that can be blamed on Whitey...

28 posted on 05/22/2008 9:33:00 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: messierhunter
I guess the name of the game is "diversity" at all costs, even if it's people's lives. Disgusting.

I guess it must be important - - Michelle Obama makes over $300,000/year as "diversity coordinator" at a Chicago hospital.

29 posted on 05/22/2008 9:34:40 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RockinRight
I'd expect a similar statistic for the likelyhood of an 18 year old African-American male to BE a murderer...

That's probably more like one in 30 or so - murderers usually aren't satisfied in committing just one.

Still, incredibly high.

and guess what...this isn't something that can be blamed on Whitey...

It will be indirectly blamed on white people, as the purported source of the poverty of Baltimore's inner city.

The argument is that poverty creates anger and desperation, and anger and desperation lead to violence and murder.

However, I suspect that the leading rationale for most of these murders is "disrespect."

30 posted on 05/22/2008 9:42:40 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: holymoly

I don’t know the answer, but my chief complaint is that gun control imposed on me and most of America is based on minority crime statistics.


31 posted on 05/22/2008 9:48:33 AM PDT by umgud
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To: RockinRight
Furthermore, the areas these crimes occurred are mostly Black neighborhoods.

Awww, now you went and spoiled it. I was having such fun trying to guess what those high density areas might have had in common.

32 posted on 05/22/2008 9:49:57 AM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: RockinRight
...and guess what...this isn't something that can be blamed on Whitey...

Maybe it can be blamed on Whitey. Rap music, which is produced by blacks, is raw, angry, explicit, and violent, and I believe it contributes a great deal to the culture of violence based on a macho ideal of pride. Rap artists promote themselves as rich, and give the impression that they got that way by selling drugs, pimping their women, stealing, and such. There have been cases of rap artists killing each other because of things they say about each other. I never heard of, say, Aerosmith trying to shoot Lynyrd Skynyrd.

A case could be made that blacks alone cannot purchase or market enough rap on their own to make it such an economic viability. I have empirical evidence that states that white kids consume more rap than black kids, on a percentage basis, even though black kids consume more rap on a per capita basis. My son and my stepson, both very white, are big fans of rap. They told me this.

Another point, look at the record companies, and see who owns them. I would bet that the people who own and run the big companies that actually package, ship, and market the rap industry are white-owned, exploiting a market the way TV and movies exploit sex.

33 posted on 05/22/2008 9:51:01 AM PDT by webheart
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To: SeaHawkFan
Gang bangers/drug dealers killing each other is not much of a concern for me. Innocent bystanders are different.

No kidding. Show me the map where those killed were not in the commission of a felony at the time of death.
34 posted on 05/22/2008 9:55:25 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: holymoly
"... it’s not a gun problem, it’s a demographic problem — with social, economic and geographic components the political community refuses to admit."

What conservatives refuse to admit is that socialists regard American society as one giant family where we don't distinguish between these artificial social, economic and geographic components.

Gun violence is ALL our problem, brother comrades.

All hail the lowest common denominator!

35 posted on 05/22/2008 9:59:29 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: holymoly

I posted a statement several years ago that violent crime was primarily committed by young black men on young black men and was called everything but a white man. Then I went to the DOJ and pulled the data that proved what I said. This only confirms what I have known fore years.

IF the Baltimore Sun map went further ans showed the race of the perps, it would also show that the vast majority of them were of the same race as the victim.


36 posted on 05/22/2008 10:00:21 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: B4Ranch

“Whitey” is the customer, not the competitor....You don’t kill the customer....


37 posted on 05/22/2008 10:03:09 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: webheart
There have been cases of rap artists killing each other because of things they say about each other.

Which rapper killed which other rapper?

38 posted on 05/22/2008 10:07:23 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: holymoly
It is just a shame this can only be announced as a “backfire” of the intent of the article. This only proves as strongly as any proof can be that those who want to deny the unalienable right to keep and bear arms are not only so very wrong, but their entire approach to crime is faulty and dangerous to our safety.

We cannot make progress in solving any problem unless we can be honest with the problem in the first place. Not so strangely, these same people insist that we didn't have terrorism until we started to get forceful with terrorists. Seems like the same defective and dangerous thinking drives domestic as well as foreign policy.

39 posted on 05/22/2008 10:07:55 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Lancey Howard
I guess it must be important - - Michelle Obama makes over $300,000/year as "diversity coordinator" at a Chicago hospital.

I wonder how much other "diversity co-ordinators" make at similar sized hospitals, or if the position even exists.

40 posted on 05/22/2008 10:15:50 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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