[SmithL]

For the record: Prop 98 is the good one.

[goldstategop]

I love it when the MSM editorializes against private property rights. They can't have that in California, where Red Arnold and the Democrats know best.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Mark was here]

This editorial writer is a nut.

Who knew it was ok to violate someones rights if it is rarely done?

[arderkrag]

It's back. Yet another initiative – Proposition 98 – is on the ballot masquerading as "eminent domain" reform and trying to scare people with the prospect that their homes might be "taken" by the government. Yet Proposition 98 is really about a sweeping agenda to lard up the California Constitution to end forever the ability of local governments to enact rent control or affordable housing ordinances, to set rules that set liquor store hours or to require developers to pay fees to build schools.

That is the very definition of eminent domain reform.

[No Truce With Kings]

My first thought when I saw the headline: two propositions to vote for.

You can still make good decisions about what to do by reading newspapers. You just have to know *how* to parse what is written.

[NormsRevenge]

Prop 98 is the good one.

Yup.

You could put the brains of the editors of the sac bee, merc news and la times and the rest of the lib rags in a thimble and still have room left over for more.

[SoCal Pubbie]

I know someone in West Hollywood who lives in a tiny, one bedroom, rent controlled apartment on Sunset. Great view if you like night life. The landlord is evicting everyone to develop the property. He told me that the rent control ordinance, after limiting the landlord to well below market rates for who knows how long, forces him to pay the tenants by some formula to make up the difference between the old rent and whatever the new rate would be for a period of time. In his case it would amount to $17,000 over a year's time. I was floored. I had no idea such craziness existed.

[stop_fascism]

Of course the CA Supreme Court will throw 98 out if it passes. The Bee is basically the Ca Demo Party’s Pravda. To quote a letter writer to the Bee:

“I have seen arguments for and against these propositions, and I was still undecided, but leaning towards yes on 98. However, I knew that I could always count on the Bee to point me in the right direction. When in doubt I always take whatever the Bee recommends and do the opposite.”

Luckily, McClatchy Media will soon be bankrupt.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Far out and good for California! This hopes to wipe out a whole slew of vicious local government abuses.

Three cheers for both propositions!

[Retired Greyhound]

YES on 98

NO on 99

[Lancey Howard]

Whether to set requirements for affordable housing is something city residents and officials should be able to decide. It is not something that should be banned by the state constitution.

Yes it should.

[Lancey Howard]

There you have it: The big-government loving Democrats of the Sac Bee recommend against Prop 98 (they all but ignore 99 in this "editorial", surprise surprise) so that means Californians should enthusiastically vote for Prop 98. I guess the Sacramento Bee ("the sac") is good for something besides lighting the woodstove.

[underground]

I heard some lib in California (off-topic on a book board) saying he’d have to leave the state and settle somewhere in the red-state midwest if this prop98 went through. They never seem to get it, they pass all these laws messing with supply, demand, and property rights, then they throw a hissy fit when the exact opposite of what they intended comes about and the laws have to be repealed before prices can come back down.

And then, at the end of the day, they move along to some place without all the stupid regulation and inflated costs, having learned nothing.

[Publius6961]

I am so glad to see this thread, because the usual political "fun and games" (or outright lies) are being employed.
I have lived in California all of my life except the first 8 years, and have seen the same dirty trick work over and over again...

When a group which produces nothing, spends uncontrollably, or maneuvers for financial advantage at the expense of the taxpayer all support a proposition, I instinctively vote against it.
That strategy has never failed me. See who supports it, and that tell me what it's about more clearly than anything else.

Supporters of 99 and opponents of 98:

League of California Homeowners. This endorsement has elicited a response from Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, who says, "While this attractive name may cause many voters to think this is a broad-based statewide homeowners organization, it is actually a corporation whose primary function is to act as a contractor referral service."
California League of Conservation Voters
They produce nothing, they work endlessly to take property permanently off the tax rolls and contribute nothing but additional taxpayer burdens.

California Police and Fire Chiefs Associations
No comment necessary here. Their budget is never high enough.
Defenders of Wildlife.
Again, if you think that the Bugs and Bunny crowd has the best interests of the taxpayer at heart, there is no hope for you.

California State Assembly members Hector De La Torre, Mark Leno, state senator Carole Migden...
No comment necessary about those tax and spend on socialist issues nutcases.

Need more proof?

Check out the financial contributors!

Prop 99 Contributors

[afnamvet]

The Sac Bee never should be read, touched (unless tongs are used) or subscribed to. It may be burned as a fireplace starter.

[afnamvet]

Prop 98 is indeed the good one. : )

[calcowgirl]

Well, they got it half right, but for the wrong reasons as usual.

The SacBee does not fail to disappoint!

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YES on Proposition 98

NO on Proposition 99

[Little Ray]

...end forever the ability of local governments to enact rent control or affordable housing ordinances...

Sounds like a good reason to vote for it right there!

[calcowgirl]

AARP is running an ad against Prop 98.
Scaring seniors, as usual.

Too bad they aren’t looking our for seniors that own property.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqANQQQno3g

[Publius6961]

Yet Proposition 98 is really about a sweeping agenda to lard up the California Constitution to end forever the ability of local governments to enact rent control or affordable housing ordinances, to set rules that set liquor store hours or to require developers to pay fees to build schools.

This is remarkable beyond words!
Feel-good socialism run amok and masquerading as news.

"Developers" don't pay a thing.
People who buy the homes, or who pay increased prices for goods as a result of rent-inflation pay every cent of that "invisible tax money"

YES on 98

NO on 99!