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To: Sub-Driver
citing the Supreme Court's 2003 Lawrence v. Texas decision

To think of how Scalia and Santorum were scorned and ridiculed when they warned where Lawrence v. Texas would lead.

7 posted on 05/21/2008 4:45:56 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: AHerald
citing the Supreme Court's 2003 Lawrence v. Texas decision

To think of how Scalia and Santorum were scorned and ridiculed when they warned where Lawrence v. Texas would lead.

I bet the Ninth Circuit can't wait for a gay marriage case and use Lawrence vs. Texas. We might have one coming up to bat. The referendum to the CA state constitution banning gay marriage passes but the next day someone sues in federal court citing Lawrence vs. Texas.

13 posted on 05/21/2008 4:52:34 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: AHerald

Wikipedia and all other commentators are going to have to hurry to revise statements that it is “highly unlikely” that courts will try to apply Lawrence to service in the military:

“Even though not decided upon equal protection grounds, sexual liberty supporters still hope that the majority decision will call into question other legal limitations on same-sex sexuality, including the right to state recognition of same-sex marriages, and the right to serve in the military. The latter appears highly unlikely in light of the Supreme Court’s recognition that “the military is, by necessity, a specialized society separate from civilian society.”[15] The United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces, the last court of appeals for Courts-Martial before the Supreme Court, has upheld that Lawrence applies to Article 125 of the UCMJ, the article banning Sodomy. However, the court has twice upheld prosecutions under Article 125 (the article prohibiting sodomy), in United States v. Marcum and United States v. Stirewalt, finding that the article was “constitutional as applied to Appellant”[16][17] and when applied as necessary to preserve good order and discipline in the armed forces. Although no court has interpreted the U.S. Constitution to require states to allow same-sex marriage, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled in Goodridge v. Dept. of Public Health that the constitution of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts required that same-sex couples be given full marriage rights. The decision did cite Lawrence, which was decided some four and a half months earlier, but did not draw on its direct precedential authority, as Goodridge was decided on exclusively state constitutional grounds. On the other hand, several federal district and circuit courts that have considered the extent of Lawrence have held that it is an extremely narrow holding under rational basis review. These courts have ruled that Lawrence does not call into question laws regulating marriage, nor does Lawrence strike down other regulations related to homosexuality. (See Wilson v. Ake, 354 F. Supp. 2d 1298 (M.D. Fla. 2005); Lofton v. Sec. of Dep’t of Children & Family Services, 358 F.3d 804 (11th. Cir. 2004); Williams v. Attorney General of Alabama, 378 F.3d 1232 (11th Cir. 2004).) The Supreme Court has not yet accepted any cases that present an opportunity to further define the implications of Lawrence....”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas


16 posted on 05/21/2008 4:54:39 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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