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Court blasts state's strip-search of children
World Net Daily ^ | May 20, 2008 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 05/21/2008 2:53:57 PM PDT by Dengar01

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To: Bear_Slayer

In your America children would be left to the wild animals and criminals to do with as they wished. I don’t even think you’d care to live there after a while.


41 posted on 05/21/2008 4:05:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dengar01
"We are obviously pleased with the result, but candidly, we wish they had been more harsh on this renegade department that has ruined the lives of so many well-intentioned families already"

So, talk to the US Attorney about criminal charges under 18 USC 242....

42 posted on 05/21/2008 4:08:24 PM PDT by Grut
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To: TruthConquers
How about the legislature? They do such things. They're the people who writes your laws. CPS folks "administer" the laws written by the legislature. Judges determine facts and the law specific to a case, and sometimes (absent a jury) render judgments.

So, an "activist judge" who does what ~ defines "abuse"? How about an "activist judge" who looks at the law, sees what behaviors are defined as "abuse" and issues a warrant for CPS (and the cops in some cases) ~ and does what any judge is asked to do. Or, what about a stodgy old Conservative judge who voted straight Taft and Eisenhower and Reagan, and you bring Sylvia Likens death into his court, and he wants to know where was Family Services?

Hmm, you ask such tough questions.

BTW, the kids continue to have rights.

43 posted on 05/21/2008 4:09:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
In your America children would be left to the wild animals and criminals to do with as they wished.

Paging:

This country did just fine for nearly 150 years without CPS...

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44 posted on 05/21/2008 4:10:17 PM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Mr. Lucky
The head doesn’t contain any organ which is particularly necessary for a government case worker.

Excellent point.

So I guess that the additional handicap of lacking a heart and sould in the case of this particular case worker means she could hardly be classified as human in the first place.

45 posted on 05/21/2008 4:23:04 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (The secret of Life is letting go. The secret of Love is letting it show.)
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To: Darren McCarty; TruthConquers

ah! Thanks.


46 posted on 05/21/2008 4:26:17 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Dengar01

This article is rather short on information about what led to the CPS worker’s visit in the first place. Anonymous caller? Identified caller who also reported a similar concern re the same family 2 years ago, at which time the children were found bloodied and bruised and said their parents did it? These things do make a difference. Since the social worker found nothing wrong with the children, I’m guessing the nature of the report was pretty sketchy, but if WND is going to write indignant articles, they should track down and include the relevant facts.

What’s interesting here is that the principal apparently just rolled over and let the social worker do whatever she wanted without any attempt challenge it. Shouldn’t the principal be a little better prepared for this sort of thing? Have an attorney’s number handy?

There’s no way that a lone social worker should be allowed to be alone in a room with a child in a situation like this. What’s to stop her from PUTTING injuries on the child and later claiming they were already there — musta been fresh from a beating before school that morning, ya know. There’s also nothing to stop her planting ideas and false information in the child’s mind, or even sexually molesting the child. Something is very wrong with this state agency’s procedures, that they allow this. In the event of a child who really was being abused and needed help, this easily abused no-witnesses procedure could impair the state’s ability to prove abuse in court.


47 posted on 05/21/2008 4:28:02 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Sue Perkick

They DO care. The more damage they do the more theie jobs are validated and the more funding they get from the state. It is creative government use of psychopathy.


48 posted on 05/21/2008 5:02:55 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: muawiyah
There is a place for police and courts enforcing laws on the basis of evidence.

That is different to a State Nanny making arbitrary searches and child confiscations based on her feelings.

50 posted on 05/21/2008 5:18:21 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Holy State or Holy King - Or Holy People's Will - Have no truck with the senseless thing)
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To: arthurus

That’s a good point. Guaranteed job security.


51 posted on 05/21/2008 5:26:50 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I've done here today doesn't force you to have a negative opinion of me....)
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To: Sue Perkick; arthurus

If we were serious about government corruption, or had a DOJ that worked, a lot of these people would be looking at serious prison time. Not jail, prison.


52 posted on 05/21/2008 5:35:59 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Lurker
No it didn't. For the most part (in the Midwest and Eastern states) a public official called a TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE took care of these problems. In the South County Commissioners did the job.

Your ignorance of American history and institutions is seriously deficient.

53 posted on 05/21/2008 6:16:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lurker
Back in the days when the Township Trustee did this all by himself, the county sheriff or a deputy would accompany him.

All that CPS consists of are the same duties normally found in the social welfare component of local government for hundreds (if not thousands) of years.

54 posted on 05/21/2008 6:20:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: donna

“What would you do when the ex ended up in jail?”

Assume custody of my kids and stop sending her child support. Win Freakin’ win, baby!


55 posted on 05/21/2008 6:33:12 PM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: muawiyah

I will ask you again:

How many families have been HARMED by CPS compared to those who may have been helped?

And does that harm justify the few who are helped?


56 posted on 05/21/2008 8:13:41 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Dengar01

This is the part that disturbs me. I expect the rat to act like a rat, but why did the principal just roll over like that?

“When Gresbach entered the school, she handed her business card to Principal Cheryl Reetz and told her she needed to see Ian and Alexis. Reetz asked the social worker if she could call the children’s parents, but Gresbach refused to allow it, saying she would contact them at a later time. The principal then asked if she could remain in the room to observe the interview, but she was denied permission to do so.”


57 posted on 05/21/2008 9:34:42 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: muawiyah
I'm sorry I must be misunderstanding you. Do you mean that in my world there is no constitution or laws and that people don't have a responsibility to do what is right?

In my world, government has limited power and people enjoy freedoml, all of which is carefully governed by the constituion.

58 posted on 05/22/2008 12:08:52 PM PDT by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: TruthConquers
Your question is meaningless. This is not a case where we can compare the right of a child to a safe environment to the right of someone not necessarily his parent to abuse him.

You gotta' get out of comparing apples and oranges first. Once you've done that maybe we can figure out what your question really is? (Hope it's not that Vulcan thing again).

59 posted on 05/22/2008 1:48:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bear_Slayer

In your world there may be a constitution and there may be laws, but there’s no one to protect the downtrodden, the helpless, the innocent, the injured, the poor ~


60 posted on 05/22/2008 1:51:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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