Posted on 05/21/2008 1:36:30 PM PDT by Zakeet
Child Protective Services workers returned to the West Texas ranch of a polygamist sect after learning that there may be more children living there.
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Guy Jessop was standing guard at the main gate of a ranch run by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and said he denied two state workers accompanied by a sheriff's deputy access without a search warrant.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Hardly possible.
Thats what we need to do is get people killed.
Any person attempting to force their way onto private property in Texas without a duly constituted warrant is doing so at their own risk. CPS employees included.
This is as it should be.
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The Second Amendment.
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Well I guess TX is quite different then NJ. At least you get guns we don’t have very good gun laws here. However I think if shooting & killings start it will just make sure the children are never returned to the parents. I don’t like the way this whole thing started but there are problems with this group. Maybe not all that CPS says that there are. I do not condone underage sex, child brides,child abuse etc. Nor do I think families ought to be ripped apart on the whim of Warren Jeffs or his “God Squad”. I do agree with one thing about shooting...If I were a man & Warren Jeffs had just ripped my wife & children away & gave them to his brother etc. Well then I guess I would have gone shooting. But the target wouldn’t have been CPS. I am not into killing but there is a line that never ought to have been crossed & Warren crossed too many IMHO. No wonder he had body guards.
“Those “trophy symbols” were on the tank Armoured Personnel Carrier prior to its appearance at the YFZ ranch. This photo was taken on 4/5 and is available on the FLDS website”
I never disputed any of that. My pic of the APC was from the Assocociated Press’ initial raid article.
I just have a problem with the mentality of the people involved in the raid. After all, who brings an armored vehicle to a child abuse investigation? And what kind of sick individuals paint depictions of dead humans on their APC? I understand soldiers in time of war painting flags on their planes for their kills. But these are police officers whose job is to protect & serve. It is not war (with its rules of engagement) and this should not have been a hunting expedition. They come across as a bunch of bloodthirsty wannabe soldiers who take pleasure in killing people in the line of duty.
This looks like a safe place to post a ‘bump to find” :’)
Quite the contrary, CodeToad. If you've ever read any of my many many posts stating just the opposite you will see that you are wrong or misinterpreted my posting.
I have, from the start of this fiasco, as you well know, defended the LDS and condemned the fLDS. Do some research on my postings and you will see that I have not wavered one bit from the beginning of the raid.
I have called for all the information to come in before condemning and hanging the fLDS men the same as I would do if you were accused of something that you may or may not have done.
For the 100th time: “I will buy the rope to hang them (fLDS) with if and when they are found guilty by a jury of their peers in a court of law”. Repeat this to yourself as many times as necessary. Sooner or later it is bound to penetrate the wall of denial you and your cronies have constructed. Oh yea, and reread the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, if you dare.
>>”OK, your words not ours:..”<<
“...ours..”? So you are admitting to being a Mormon-hater! LOL.....you lose.....once again you are exposed as accused.
One more thing, don't put words into my mouth. A “word-smith”, like yourself, will always expose themselves in short order, as you have just proven by your elementary response.
Panax
Instead, CPS has sent a message to the court ~ no warrant, no invitation.
At the same time they are asking for favors and exceptions.
What a stupid bunch.
The F(lds) defenders do not believe the children have civil rights.
Do you have a link to a story that says this? I know that those who claimed it before never offered any links, but it would be great to have a reputable news source to refute them with.
Of course, if it is CNN, they probably will reject it as a non-credible source. They would rather trust CPS, even now that they have been caught giving out false information multiple times.
MAybe after the look around, they could send their “tank” back in to light the place on fire and be done with it.
You are correct. So why was this such a big story?
Yes, the CPS counts on people to voluntarily give up their rights in order to have access to their own children. That makes their job a lot easier — they rarely have to prove anything, because most parents, especially ones who actually do NOT abuse their children, will do ANYTHING to get their children back into a safe environment, even signing statements and volunteering for abusive government interference.
But “it’s for the children”. CPS is the method by which the left will kill what they see as their biggest enemy — the strong nuclear family unit.
“Oh yea, and reread the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, if you dare.”
The WHOLE THING???!!! Gosh, I don’t know if can do that.
.. .. .. .. .. I just have a problem with the mentality of the people involved in the raid. After all, who brings an armored vehicle to a child abuse investigation? And what kind of sick individuals paint depictions of dead humans on their APC? I understand soldiers in time of war painting flags on their planes for their kills. But these are police officers whose job is to protect & serve. It is not war (with its rules of engagement) and this should not have been a hunting expedition. They come across as a bunch of bloodthirsty wannabe soldiers who take pleasure in killing people in the line of duty.. .. .. .. ..
As the daughter of, the widow of, the aunt of, the cousin of, and the friend of many LEOs, I support them being armed to the teeth in any unknown situation. There are a lot of crazy people out there. By the way, each and every one are VETS, not bloodthirsty wannabe soldiers who take pleasure in killing people in the line of duty.
As Capt. Caver said in his interview, they didn’t know what to expect.
http://www.cbs7.com/video/index.asp?ID=4751
http://www.cbs7.com/video/index.asp?ID=4761
Hey CodeToad, We can read it together if you want.....After all I am the Paris Hilton of FR...You knew that right? Maybe we can figure out all the big words together....
Where was that? I didn't see any pictures of dead bodies in that photo. There's lots of shadows and what looks like mud above the tread, but nothing that looks like dead body images.
Mine has pictures:’)
“As the daughter of, the widow of, the aunt of, the cousin of, and the friend of many LEOs, I ...”
Do they also paint trophy marks on the fender of their crown Vic’s or would they consider that provocative, disrespectful & distasteful?
BTW, I fully support law enforcement that respects people’s rights and uses adequate judgement.
I've seen that and don't disagree with you about your stand and statements.
It seems that the question, however, is why you label people who oppose this group (flds) and it's practices as *Mormon haters* if the flds are not Mormon as you say?
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