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Posted on 05/21/2008 1:36:30 PM PDT by Zakeet
Child Protective Services workers returned to the West Texas ranch of a polygamist sect after learning that there may be more children living there.
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Guy Jessop was standing guard at the main gate of a ranch run by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and said he denied two state workers accompanied by a sheriff's deputy access without a search warrant.
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Infrared thermography or heat detectors might help them find people in hidden rooms without to much destruction of property.
I wonder if the kids in protective custody have been talking about others hiding (like underage girls with infants or even the infamous Sarah).
Actually, the only “idiots” here are the ones who think the law never asks to enter a place without a warrant. It happens all the time. Sometimes people say yes, sometimes they say no. When they say no, they get a warrant.
If they are voluntarily let in, then there is no violation. Searching w/o a warrant AND w/o permission is a violation.
You’d be amazed at the number of people that give permission. Stupid is as stupid does.
I’m curious to see if they have enough info to get and come back with a warrant. Or what kind of spy-tech they have trained on the compound (on loan from the feds?). Could be they just wanted to goose them into trying to move them?
Got the great makings of a made for TV movie!
One would hope that there would be some "probable cause" to get a warrant. Exercising your rights under the Constitution is not probable cause.
Or, it might have been something as simple as viewing the footage Lisa Ling aired on the Oprah show of the hidden rooms, secret passageways, and underground tunnels at Warren Jeffs’ old place.
Then again, if they’re breaking the law, shouldn’t authorities act?
Good. If they try to force their way in without one, shoot them dead.
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Exigent circumstances are an exception to the warrant requirements. Barring them seeing a crime happening in front of them, or hearing someone screaming bloody-murder, no they should not act. They should conduct themselves within the framework of the laws and regulations that they are controlled by, else we will live in chaos and anarchy and arbitrarily applied justice. The needs of the 300,000,000 people living in the US to have a respectable, law abiding justice system, is far, far greater than the need to bring these FLDS people into the "system". Any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
Waco II?????
I hope it was more than the Oprah show, because I seriously doubt they’ll get another warrant based on that.
Statements from children, especially teen children might get them another warrant to search with infrared to look for hidden persons.
Wouldn’t the fit just hit the shan if they found the missing Sarah or other underage girls in hidden rooms.
Texas: ‘New information’ indicated children may remain on sect’s ranch
By Brooke Adams
The Salt Lake Tribune
Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated:05/21/2008 02:50:43 PM MDT
Updated: 2:49 PM- ELDORADO, Tex. - Texas authorities say they returned to a polygamous sect’s ranch this morning because they had “new information” that some children may still be living there.
Marissa Gonzales of Child Protective Services said: “We have received new information about children who may be living at the YFZ Ranch. CPS had believed all children had been removed as authorized by a state district judge.”
She added: “This morning, accompanied by law enforcement, we went to the ranch to make some initial inquiries.”
Sect member Guy Jessop said he met a Schliecher County sheriff’s deputy and two child welfare officials at the gate of the YFZ Ranch at about 11 a.m. CST. “They said they were looking for more children,” he said.
He asked if they had a search warrant; when they answered they did not, he declined to let them enter and they left, he said.
As for whether CPS will now seek a search warrant, Gonzalez said: “We are conferring with law enforcement.”
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Source: http://origin.sltrib.com/ci_9334515 (Salt Lake Tribune)
Allow DFPS Program staff to make announced and unannounced visits to your residence to verify living arrangements.
it negates the need for a warrant.
True enough, but it interferes with the “jackbooted, brownshirted, goose-stepping, hamfisted, gubmint plotting thugs” fantasies so many have here. Which is why I don’t post much here any more—it’s lots more fun to just let them work themselves into a frenzy as they imagine oppression far worse than Russia, Cuba, China or Iran ever dreamed of.
Sure... that will really make this whole mess better. Do you want to make it is a bigger mess then it is now? Thats what we need to do is get people killed.
It sure looks like the woman in the blue dress is about to give birth any day now.
I think the relevant portion of your post is “when you sign”, I don’t see any signatures on this, redacted or otherwise.
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“if the Mormon-haters here have their way.”
So, you think Mormons are FLDS and pedophiles, because we are against pedophilia and want action to stop it at the FLDS property and you seem to equate that with being Mormon.
OK, your words not ours: According ‘panaxanax’, the pedophile FLDS are Mormons.
What is your explanation for why those places suffer oppression and we don't?
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