Barack Obama vs. John McCain on foreign policy

Los Angeles Times ^ | May 19, 2008 | Don Frederick

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

One was in the Midwest, the other in the far West. But in competing speeches today, John McCain and Barack Obama continued an intensifying debate, ratcheting up the rhetoric in their core dispute over the posture the U.S. should assume in international negotiations.

McCain, venturing into Obama's hometown of Chicago to address a meeting of the National Restaurant Assn. (many of whose members are reliable Republicans, due to their opposition to minimum wage raises), said the Democrat "betrays the depth" of his "inexperience and reckless judgment" in his call for an American president to be willing to talk with opposing regimes, such as Iran, without preconditions.

He added: "These are very serious deficiencies for an American president to possess."

[cyberella]

To: All
Awesome video:

The same kind of terrorists who support Obama did this:
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/
Never apologize for them.
Never appease them.
Never forget.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

On the other issues...Weekly Standard has an interesting article:

A Theme for McCain's Pudding

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Here's how to tie together the campaign's assortment of ideas: a reform agenda for the 21st century.
by Yuval Levin
05/26/2008, Volume 013, Issue 35

In recent weeks, while the penultimate chapter of the Democratic nomination race has monopolized our attention, John McCain has engaged in a series of auditions of general election themes for his campaign. In early April, he set out on a "Service to America Tour," highlighting key points of his biography. Two weeks later, he launched his "Time for Action Tour," which focused on some of the country's most economically depressed regions, and which should by no means be confused with the "Call to Action Tour" that followed and focused on McCain's health care plans. Then last week in Ohio, McCain outlined key elements of his agenda in a speech organized around a description of America in 2013--after his first term. Speaking of the future in the past tense, he sought to describe himself as an ambitious doer.

All of these allowed McCain to raise important issues and to offer some interesting ideas. The health care tour, in particular, yielded a speech (delivered in Tampa, Florida, on April 29) that is to date the best articulation of the conservative vision of health care from a Republican politician. What has not emerged is a coherent campaign narrative: a theme that unites McCain's proposals, his persona, his assessment of the state of the nation today, and the essence of what he plans to offer the voter in November. Indeed, this absence of an organizing principle was painfully evident in his "America in 2013" speech, which was the very model of a themeless pudding.

The titles and

the presentation of these assorted events suggest the McCain campaign is looking to ground its messages in duty, honor, and ability, presenting the candidate as a man who has always been ready to step up and act when his country needed him. This was roughly the approach of the Dole campaign in 1996 and (in a rather different way) of the Kerry campaign in 2004, and in both cases it failed to capture the imagination of the electorate. Campaigns need to sell their candidate, to be sure, but successful campaigns usually do so by articulating a candidate's vision of the present moment and the future, and not just his willingness to answer a call. The McCain campaign is currently organized around the candidate's character and persona, and the question is to what governing philosophy McCain's "honor politics" points.

It is of course fairly late in the game to be engaged in basic message development, but McCain's peculiar path to victory in the primaries did not force him to do so earlier.

[riverdawg]

“... the National Restaurant Assn. (many of whose members are reliable Republicans due to their opposition to minimum wage raises).”

The restaurant owners actually have to meet a payroll, unlike the author of this article/blog, who merely has to cash a paycheck.

[Right Cal Gal]

Obama foreign policy: Appeasement of rogue terror nations, then express shock and dismay when 9/11 happens again because he doesn’t have a clue as to what the WOT is actually about.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

You are right....we must never forget...and we need to understand the objective of many on the Far Left :

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It’s difficult to imagine they are so blatantly antiAmerican!

See this :

Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left

And a review:

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By	Kat Bakhu (Albuquerque, NM United States) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left (Hardcover)

I had long wondered why people on the Left had the propensity to speak more positively about people who would slit their throats than they do about their own country, which affords them more freedom and opportunity than anywhere else. David Horowitz has answered that question thoroughly and convincingly in his Unholy Alliance. Where I felt bewildered and confused, I now feel crystal clear. Unholy Alliance is such a great book.

It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air.

[Jeff Head]

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MCCAIN AND OBAMA
ON FOREIGN POLICY IN DEALING WITH OUR ENEMIES


AUDACITY OF TRUTH-BARACK NEVILLE HUSSEIN CHAMBERLAIN OBAMA

Barack Hussein Obama is the very apex of the anti-American, internal enemy in this country. IMHO, his election as President would be the greatest coup an enemy has ever scored against our nation, and could well turn into the greatest disaster this nation has ever faced.

AUDACITY OF TRUTH-BARACK OBAMA

AUDACITY OF TRUTH-OBAMA'S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS

AUDACITY OF TRUTH-BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY

[Grampa Dave]

Bush’s Fine Speech, and Obama’s Fine Whine

President Bush Blasts Appeasers: Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas Campaign Goes Ballistic!

Hysterical Whiner, Hussein ObamaMeshiaHamas cries/moans and screams that Bush falsely accuses him of appeasement and whines, “I’m not an appeaser!”

Obama: "I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems, ....I will not weaponize space... I will slow development of future combat systems... I will institute a 'Defense Priorities Board' to ensure the quadrennial defense review is not used ..."

Then, there will be peace in our time without the evil republicans causing war!

My change is good for Muslims, Islamofascists, Black Racists, and Chrislims. $crew the Christians and real Jews!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Another Reference:

Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America (Hardcover) by Brigitte Gabriel (Author)

From Publishers Weekly With strident confidence, American Congress for Truth founder Gabriel rebukes the American public for being "weak, asleep or careless" in the face of Muslim terrorism. A Christian survivor of the vicious civil war between Lebanese Christians and Muslims in the 1970s, Gabriel leans on her own terrifying experiences to condemn Muslims, without apparent regard for their ethnicity, ideology or historical role.

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First hand account of Islamist Evil, September 14, 2006

By	Kendra - See all my reviews

I had the opportunity to see Brigitte Gabriel speak the other night. She is an amazing person. I bought her book and read it within the next day. She has an important story to share and a talent for telling it.

Brigitte was raised a Maronite Christian in Lebanon but spent her formative years hiding with her parents in a bomb shelter. She saw her country destroyed by Muslims intent on Jihad and intent of the triumph of dar-al Islam.

Brigitte's history is compelling. She was raised in a society that was mostly tolerant and westernized-- to the point of being too tolerant of those that are intolerant (Muslims). This openness and tolerance and multiculturalist ideal was Lebanon's ruin. And, the free and open society the Lebanese prided themselves for having is, in effect, gone now and taken over by Islamofascist leaders (currently Hezbollah).

Brigitte reminds us (and teaches those that don't know) that the culture of Islam is truly incompatible with Western culture and Western ideals. Islam glorifies death and destruction in the name of Islam, or submission (to Allah). I am well-aware of those in the U.S. who do NOT want to recognize the truth and who do NOT want to recognize the threat we are facing. These people continually choose to ignore all the evidence that confronts them and ignore and denigrate those that speak the truth and share their stories.

The author's words of warning should be heeded. It seems those in the West continually ignore the Islamists' continual shouts of hatred and unequivocal warnings to achieve their goals of Islamic rule in addition to ignoring their continual attacks of war. The Islamists continually state their aims and act on it while the West-- at the risk of our own demise-- continually ignores the evidence that proves the Islamists are doing exactly what they say they are doing and will continue to do until their goal is achieved.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks for your additions to the thread....we cannot allow Obama and his supporters ( Ayers etc ) capture the White House.

[Grampa Dave]

“we cannot allow Obama and his supporters ( Ayers etc ) capture the White House.”

Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas may be the most dangerous enemy America has, and he is trying to become our president.

[Jeff Head]

Amen. As I say, and IMHO, his election as President would be the greatest coup any enemy has ever scored against our nation, and could well turn into the greatest disaster this nation has ever faced.

[proudpapa]

There are many reasons a restaurant owner would support the GOP besides the minimum wage.

I’m sick of reporters inserting their opinion.

[Bender2]

[Grampa Dave]

“Amen. As I say, and IMHO, his election as President would be the greatest coup any enemy has ever scored against our nation, and could well turn into the greatest disaster this nation has ever faced.”

If he became president with a rat controlled congress and the rat controlled MSM, this country would be lost in his first term.