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To: Principled
You could think of one’s tax burden as three parts;

-embedded taxes
-PIT
-Payroll

Only if you don't realize 'embedded taxes' already includes PIT and Payroll taxes. Do you ever wonder why the fairytax.org analysis is always so rosy? Because for the income tax it counts taxes twice. You can either count taxes being paid by the individuals and businesses that submit them, or you can count them as embedded. When you try to count them twice, you void any logical discussion and enter fairytax.org land.

49 posted on 05/20/2008 2:00:28 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right

Oh my gosh!

Who pays more AR?
a) those who pay embedded taxes only
b) those who pay embedded taxes AND PIT AND Payroll?

According to what you just posted, a) and b) pay the same.

Sheesh.

The total collected doesn’t change - the total collected is just a % of GDP. GDP don’t care who spends, criminal or not. It’s part of GDP - it’s taxed.


59 posted on 05/21/2008 5:47:30 AM PDT by Principled (Vaporize the "Divide and Conquer" taxes - Have everyone pay the same marginal rate!. NRST!)
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To: Always Right
You can either count taxes being paid by the individuals and businesses that submit them, or you can count them as embedded.

OK then, count taxes by who "submits" them. If you choose to leave embedded taxes in the ether, fine. Then,

Individual taxes [PIT and EE payroll] are taxes "submitted" by individuals.

Business taxes [ER payroll, business income taxes] are taxes "submitted" by business.

Criminals and illegals currently "submit" no individual taxes. But under the nrst, they will. QED.

63 posted on 05/21/2008 6:06:34 AM PDT by Principled (Vaporize the "Divide and Conquer" taxes - Have everyone pay the same marginal rate!. NRST!)
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