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To: silverleaf; All

“Check out the credentials of Rickard Dawkin.”

By this do you mean Richard Dawkins? While there are references to Rickard Dawkins on Google. In fact his name is Richard Dawkins, and he has an MA and D.Phil. from Oxford Univ. His genius is in synthesizing a number of different approaches to scientific information and developing a new paradigm.

In looking over the credentials of thed 31K petitioners I see that physicist Edward Teller is headlined at the top. He died in 2003 at the age of 95, and the petition was from 1997 objecting to the Koyto agreement. There certainly were flaws in that agreement, so what is presented about Teller does not indicate whether he rejected the problem of climate change, merely the conclusions at that time. Of course, George Bush rejected the problem at that time, but now, 5 years later he seems rather convinced. How old are the signatures of these 31K scientists, we need to know their current views and even if they are still alive.

In addition, I note that almost 10,000 are engineer, mostly electrical. Where is the list for civil engineers, who are the ones who will have to deal with the flooding of cities and other major storm damage. In all there are only 40 climatologists listed, and I would love to know who they are so I could examine their credentials and state of aliveness. There are many more meteorologists listed, but they do not usually understand climatology very well, as the technical focus is quite different as is the education.

I hope this is enough facts. Give me more details, I will give you more facts.


27 posted on 05/20/2008 10:37:33 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

“His genius is in synthesizing a number of different approaches to scientific information and developing a new paradigm.”

barf alert. His bio is heavy on prizes for literature and humanism and a bit light on hard science. Funny how critical his intellectual type is on others like himself with opposing “paradigms” which they critiques as being light on hard science.

Anyhow, I too have a differnt approach to scientific information and I am close to developing a whole new paradigm - if only I had time between loads of laundry.

BTW, I did indicate the link I gave was to a previous petition from the 1990’s, not the current one. I am not going to go seek out the current one so you can find one spelling error or flaw and discredit it - and me. LOL!

If you cared to seek facts rather than argue, you could answer your own questions about the petition link I did post, because the name of every signer as well as his/her credentials is included in the data at the link.

And before you plink on one or even more of the petitioners’ qualifications - a broader question- Do you need 30,000 climate scientists to make an argument that disproves the current hype that man controls the climate- or isn’t one well-qualified skeptic capable of presenting facts that dispel a much larger myth? There weren’t 30,000 Galileos. There was only one man who figured out one truth.

Have fun.


28 posted on 05/20/2008 10:59:22 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: gleeaikin
"Give me more details..."

Google "Vostok ice cores".

Should give you graphs of temperature and carbon dioxide from previous 400,000 years. There were ancient warming periods with high levels of carbon dioxide --- not caused by humans.

39 posted on 02/15/2010 4:18:25 PM PST by gatex (NRA, JPFO and Gun Owners of America)
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To: gleeaikin
Link to graphs ---

http://www.globalwarmingart.com/images/b/bf/Vostok_Plot.png

40 posted on 02/15/2010 4:24:12 PM PST by gatex (NRA, JPFO and Gun Owners of America)
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