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Harkin: Nothing Bad Happened In Viet Nam After the War
The Virginian/Ed Driscoll ^ | 5/18/2008 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 05/18/2008 8:05:11 AM PDT by moneyrunner

This needs to be widely distributed.

I can't post the video clip so you will have to go the the link.

It's a clip of John McCain appearing on Des Moines' WHO radio last July, when on-air talent Jan Mickelson played him Tom Harkin's comments from earlier that month, recorded on the floor of the Senate:

And if we leave, there will be a bloodbath in Vietnam. All of the people who supported us will be slaughtered in the streets. Well, it didn't happen.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 110th; communismkills; hanoi; harkin; hccain; lyingliar; orwelliannightmare; revisionisthistory; saigon; vietnam; vietnamwar
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To: george76

This has to be the epitome of denial. Based on total contravention of reality, in which hundreds of thousands were fleeing the country, under circumstances that would make the flight from Cuba during the regime of Fidel Castro look like a Sunday stroll in the park.

Tom Harkin would be much more convincing if he were to deny global warming. Or the existence of the Holocaust.

Maybe nothing bad EVER happens. At least not in the parallel universe that Tom Harkin inhabits.


21 posted on 05/18/2008 8:30:21 AM PDT by alloysteel (Is John McCain headed into the Perfect Storm? You bet he is.)
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To: moneyrunner
Harkin: Nothing Bad Happened In Viet Nam After the War

Well that is a fact, if you only got your information from our media. After the US troops left, the media stopped reporting about bad things in Vietnam. Since the evil US government was no longer there, everything was rosy. So the atrocities of the communist regime that followed did not happen since they were not seen nightly on our TV sets or in our newspapers of record. Out of sight out of mind. Unfortunately, that reality was not the case for the south Vietnamese people who actually lived through it.

22 posted on 05/18/2008 8:33:09 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: moneyrunner

And still the Iowa Republicans, same as for decades, can’t find an answer to Commie Tommy. (Out of a multitude of failures, this is their signal failure.)

They continue to think they can beat a socialist warrior with milquetoast.


23 posted on 05/18/2008 8:34:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I have a clear record of working with Dems. I will appoint Dems to my administration." -Sen McCain)
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To: moneyrunner; All

"Shortly after taking office in 1985, Kerry and Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa went on a fact-finding trip to Nicaragua, where they met with Daniel Ortega (right) and other Sandinistas. The trip was criticized when the Sandinistas cemented ties with Moscow."
http://cache.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/images/day6/01b.jpg

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

24 posted on 05/18/2008 8:34:26 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: moneyrunner; smoothsailing

Harkin is an embarrassment to Iowa, the US Senate and our country.


25 posted on 05/18/2008 8:34:29 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: EternalVigilance

>>>They continue to think they can beat a socialist warrior with milquetoast.

That mentality has escaped Iowa and infected the entire Republican Party establishment.


26 posted on 05/18/2008 8:36:05 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Wanted: A Presidential Candidate I can vote FOR...)
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To: afortiori

That is Ruth Harkin.

She, by the way, has parlayed the power of her husband’s Senatorial position into a personal family fortune.


27 posted on 05/18/2008 8:37:48 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I have a clear record of working with Dems. I will appoint Dems to my administration." -Sen McCain)
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To: moneyrunner

Wow! harkin just stepped in it-what an ASS!


28 posted on 05/18/2008 8:38:07 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Keith in Iowa

Indeed it has.


29 posted on 05/18/2008 8:38:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I have a clear record of working with Dems. I will appoint Dems to my administration." -Sen McCain)
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To: icwhatudo

Harkin has been “stepping in it” for forty years. Hasn’t hurt him yet.


30 posted on 05/18/2008 8:39:46 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("I have a clear record of working with Dems. I will appoint Dems to my administration." -Sen McCain)
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To: moneyrunner
Read this, Tom Harkin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyluck

I lived in Hong Kong when it happened and what the Wiki folks don't tell you is that the ship's crew deliberately ran the Skyluck up onto the beach.

31 posted on 05/18/2008 8:43:05 AM PDT by modyoulater (Everything is everything.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Harkin will be met at the pearly gates by all of the victims of Vietnam communism, just as Teddy will be met by Mary Jo Kopeckne.


32 posted on 05/18/2008 8:43:32 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("We are slayed. The party is dead--dead--dead!" - Whig Rep. Lewis Campbell (and so will go the GOP))
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To: EternalVigilance

Must be that whole “evil of two lessers” thing.


33 posted on 05/18/2008 8:45:17 AM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: moneyrunner
It would be easy to think that Harkin's revisionist history is a deliberate lie. Just as it would be easy to think that Obama really does know how many states we have, and that the sub-prime housing "crisis" is nothing like the great depression. The sad thing is that it's likely both men are simply this appallingly ignorant. They're the products of the best higher education money can buy, and they've learned very well just what they were taught.
34 posted on 05/18/2008 8:45:17 AM PDT by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: moneyrunner; PhilDragoo

To elite left wingers like Harkin, Kennedy, Pelosi, Boxer, Clintoons, Kerry and Obama, nothing important did happen.

Since they are racists, the deaths of a million SE Asians was nothing to them.


35 posted on 05/18/2008 8:46:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein Obama"Hama's" Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: moneyrunner
All of the people who supported us will be slaughtered in the streets. Well, it didn't happen.

Technically speaking, this is more or less accurate.

Most were killed in camps, not in the streets.

Also, the significant majority of those killed were in Cambodia, not in Vietnam.

Finally, as others have pointed out, the media is so self-obsessed that they believe they create reality by reporting it. If CBS didn't report the killing, complete with color video, it just didn't happen.

36 posted on 05/18/2008 8:47:35 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: moneyrunner
His performance at the Wellstone Memorial proves, even death can't stop his political spin cycle.
37 posted on 05/18/2008 8:48:54 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: moneyrunner

When the city of Hue invaded by NVA regulars during the Tet Offensive, there was wide scale slaughter that the media conveniently and uniformly overlooked. Now, because they ignored it then, it never happened. Ask anybody from the 5th Marine Division.


38 posted on 05/18/2008 8:53:41 AM PDT by Spok (Ignorance is no excuse-it's the real thing.)
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To: moneyrunner

And these are Vietnamese refugees my ship picked up in 1981 that never happened, either.

39 posted on 05/18/2008 8:54:27 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: svcw

If that Harkin is only a Moron would be a gift to Our Country, but he is an outright Liar relating to Vietnam among many areas and hence a Traitor to Our Country.


40 posted on 05/18/2008 8:54:53 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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