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To: M. Thatcher; MNJohnnie; angcat; The Ghost of Rudy McRomney; Biggirl; sofaman; Rush Limbaugh

OC quantified ping.


2 posted on 05/17/2008 8:51:57 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txflake
This is absolutely nuts. They story implies but does not say that lots of those voters switched to vote for Obama.

Yet Obama carried only 4 of Ohio's 88 counties. The other factor was the lack of male votes on the Democratic side. 59 percent of the democratic voters were female and only 41 percent male.

I believe that the fall election will show that the number of votes Obama got in the primary election this year will be almost the same number of votes he will get in the fall.

My Dad was one of 14 members of the Ohio Democratic Central Committee long before there was much polling. He made it a point to talk to several hundred people before each election. The people he talked to were from Republican and Democratic groups. He was always able come very close to predicting the percentage of the vote each candidate would receive. I use the techniques he taught me 58 years ago.

I have done the things Dad taught me and in 2004 my results came very close to the actual returns.

In 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006 and 2008 both parties and the media consider my home town of Chilicothe Ohio the bellwether community. The vote in Chillicothe has for years paralleled the state wide vote.

In 2004 the media was all over this town trying to figure out how Chillicothe Ohio was going to go. Because they knew that the candidate that won Chillicothe in 2004 would be our president. It was quite close as it was state wide.

This year it is amazing. Obama will be lucky to win 40 percent of the Chillicothe vote. Right now he would lose 60 to 40. The white working class Democrats will not vote for him. It is not that they are for Hillary, they are not. They will NOT vote for Obama in the fall. They did not like Hillary but they voted for her so Obama would not win.

Some of them will vote for McCain in the fall. Some will not vote at all. The pollsters and the media think they will be like the past.. Democrats who were for the candidate who did not win the primary complained but voted for the one that did win the nomination in the fall.

This is the first year with a very liberal black candidate for the Democratic party. And a huge number of white working class Democrats will not vote for Obama. They fear him and will not vote for him. When compared to the economy, and the war in Iraq, the most important thing for these Democrats is to keep Obama from being our next president.

Normally, here in Chillicothe, one sees tons of Democrat signs for each candidate. But this year despite the large turn out there were only a few Obama signs put up by members of the largest black church, and a handful of Hillary signs. Yet Hillary got 70 percent of the vote here in Ross county.

Obama does not stand a snowballs chance in Hell of carrying Ohio. My soninlaw says the hourly workers talk at the plant where he works is all about defeating Obama. He said some 50 plus year old men who have never voted have registered to vote. They will vote for McCain. Not because they are for McCain but because they fear a president Obama

I have been closely watching elections in Ohio since 1948 I have never seen anything close to this situation Throw out the books and the assumptions based on past elections This is a brand new ball game, and neither the pollsters or the media are aware of what is going on.

Obama is going down.. and the media does not know it.

13 posted on 05/17/2008 9:22:40 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: txflake

Almost forgot, thanks for the ping.


27 posted on 05/18/2008 12:57:02 AM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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