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There is a strong anti-McCain movement on FR and while there is nothing wrong with that in general I feel that some of those involved have been in engaging in an effort of mischaracterization and misinformation on where McCain stands on some of the issues.

The anti-McCain crowd consistently state that there is no difference between McCain and Obama/Clinton, which is simply ridiculous. There are points where the difference is less stark than others but to make a sweeping claim such as that, IMO, demonstrates the hysterical lengths some will go to try to get others to stay home or vote third party on election day. Now McCain wasn’t my #1 candidate as he wasn’t for most FReepers, but he will be the GOP nominee and a realistic analysis of his positions free from rhetoric and hysteria is important to gaining a full understanding of what to expect from him if he were to win the election.

In the interests of having a rational discussion and attempting to soberly define where McCains stands on the issues and whether or not there is a “difference” between him and his opponents, I will post one new McCain issue standpoint a day.

To those “one issue” voters, please don’t muck up these threads by bringing up the other issues not being discussed this day, you’re chance will come.

NOTE - I am posting these in order straight from the McCain website. This is not an attempt to support/not support McCain, just laying his postions out as he states them for discussion.

1 posted on 05/17/2008 9:14:24 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J
There is a strong anti-McCain movement on FR

No, it is a strong anti-McCain MEMORY on FR. It is based on what he has actually done, not what he is saying during the campaign.

2 posted on 05/17/2008 9:20:39 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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I don’t think anyone thinks that McCain is as bad as Obama. The problem is that he is a Republican, and if he is elected, he will drive the party far to the left, work closely with the congressional Democrats as he always has, and destroy forty or fifty years of work moving the party in a conservative direction.

He will likely be able to push bad stuff through congress that, as we have seen, Reid and Pelosi have been unable to push, because he will work across the aisles. Of course, if Obama takes the White House, there will be no veto threat; but it might be possible to filibuster and turn things around after two or four years of pain.

Sure, McCain has SOME good points, but also a history of compromising, ALWAYS with the left, never with the right. Will he face down congress over SCOTUS appointments? I doubt it.

So it becomes a matter of conscience and individual choice. Which is worse, a Communist/Muslim/black-power-advocate Obama, or Maverick McCain, subverting the party from within and leaving no other choice to vote for down the line?

I honestly don’t know WHAT I will do, come November. Meantime, I am still praying for a miracle before we come to that.


3 posted on 05/17/2008 9:25:50 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Bob J
To those “one issue” voters, please don’t muck up these threads by bringing up the other issues not being discussed this day, you’re chance will come.

I didn't get the email putting you in charge. What day was it sent out.

However, as a veteran, I promise not to lift one finger to help elect LIBERAL, mccain.

4 posted on 05/17/2008 9:32:04 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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“McCain on the Issues - Veterans”

Looking forward to you posting “McCain on Illegals”

“McCain on Free Political Speech”

“McCain on Gorebull Warming”

Looking real forward to that.


6 posted on 05/17/2008 9:52:35 AM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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“To those “one issue” voters,”

You just posted ONE ISSUE whereas those of us against McBackstabber have a whole host of issues that we can name, not just one. Would you like a list?


7 posted on 05/17/2008 9:57:06 AM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: Bob J

Are you a member of the campaign or the RNC?


8 posted on 05/17/2008 10:10:37 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Ronald Reagan Fought Regulation, John McCain Brought Regulation...)
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BJ- I think Tom DeLay stated it something like this,”John McCain has done more to stop the Conservative movement that any other single person”

So I don’t what he says, I don’t trust him.

In his own words he stated he is a proud LIBERAL Republican.

SCREW Juan McCain.

BTW- you haven’t posted where he indicated he would work to overthrow Burma.


10 posted on 05/17/2008 10:16:32 AM PDT by stockpirate (Purge the RNC and GOP of ALL SOCIALISTS . Starting with Juan McCain.)
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BJ- I noticed where your boss has staff going after the voters who blog.

Also noted that not many read or comment on your posts.

Tell McMoron if he wants the conservative vote he needs dump socialism and his sociist buds.


12 posted on 05/17/2008 10:23:13 AM PDT by stockpirate (Purge the RNC and GOP of ALL SOCIALISTS . Starting with Juan McCain.)
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Yes, you are quite right. The problem is there is no rational cure for xenophobia because xenophobia is irrational. No matter what the McCain bashers say, to a person, what grinds them is McCain, President Bush and Senator Kennedy dared to offer a solution for 12 million or more illegals.

They killed the solution but after the election, regardless of who is president, immigration will be dealt with. Ditto for some beginning effort to control carbon dioxide emissions into the atmosphere. On this later score, no one sure, but like in medicine, one has to make life or death decisions with incomplete or conflicting information.

Name calling and egregious insults lack an empirical foundation; hence, only those who have no other recourse rely on this form of argumentation.


13 posted on 05/17/2008 10:26:56 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Bob J
I'll try to keep it on topic for you. ; )

Vietnam Veterans Against McCain YouTube video

Former P.O.W.: "Why I Cannot Support Senator John McCain for President"

The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides (His conduct in the Senate not in the military.)

U.S. POW/MIAs Who May Have Survived In Captivity

30 posted on 05/17/2008 3:16:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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John McCain Losing His Cool YouTube video

Freeper Alert: Sen. KERRY / Communist Vietnamese Killing Off Christains in Central Highlands... (...with Senator McCAIN (R) in complete agreement with him, is because "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run.)

John McCain armed Kosovo Islamic terrorists

McCAIN AND THE KLA CONNECTION

31 posted on 05/17/2008 3:25:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TitansAFC; meandog; onyx; MARTIAL MONK; GulfBreeze; Kuksool; freespirited; Salvation; furquhart; ...
The McCain List.
Common sense conservatism

32 posted on 05/17/2008 3:48:01 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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I CERTAINLY prefer McCain to the alternatives.

...most definitely...!


36 posted on 05/17/2008 4:28:24 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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I appreciate your posting McCain’s positions on various issues.

On this issue, I would like to know where he’s been as our military recruiters and centers have been under literal attack by radical leftists.

To my knowledge, he’s been silent and has done nothing to stand up for them here at home while they defend us both here and abroad.

Michelle Malkin has done a good job of chronicling what they’ve been subjected to:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/07/special-report-tracing-the-lefts-escalating-war-on-military-recruiters/

Clinton and Obama probably silently cheer but I’m very disappointed in President Bush and Senator McCain on this as well.

I’d be very happy if someone could point me to any investigations initiated, statements issued, or actions taken by either against those who are assaulting our military here at home.


57 posted on 05/19/2008 5:24:47 AM PDT by Nickname
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