Posted on 05/17/2008 9:14:23 AM PDT by Bob J
The anti-McCain crowd consistently state that there is no difference between McCain and Obama/Clinton, which is simply ridiculous. There are points where the difference is less stark than others but to make a sweeping claim such as that, IMO, demonstrates the hysterical lengths some will go to try to get others to stay home or vote third party on election day. Now McCain wasn’t my #1 candidate as he wasn’t for most FReepers, but he will be the GOP nominee and a realistic analysis of his positions free from rhetoric and hysteria is important to gaining a full understanding of what to expect from him if he were to win the election.
In the interests of having a rational discussion and attempting to soberly define where McCains stands on the issues and whether or not there is a “difference” between him and his opponents, I will post one new McCain issue standpoint a day.
To those “one issue” voters, please don’t muck up these threads by bringing up the other issues not being discussed this day, you’re chance will come.
NOTE - I am posting these in order straight from the McCain website. This is not an attempt to support/not support McCain, just laying his postions out as he states them for discussion.
No, it is a strong anti-McCain MEMORY on FR. It is based on what he has actually done, not what he is saying during the campaign.
I don’t think anyone thinks that McCain is as bad as Obama. The problem is that he is a Republican, and if he is elected, he will drive the party far to the left, work closely with the congressional Democrats as he always has, and destroy forty or fifty years of work moving the party in a conservative direction.
He will likely be able to push bad stuff through congress that, as we have seen, Reid and Pelosi have been unable to push, because he will work across the aisles. Of course, if Obama takes the White House, there will be no veto threat; but it might be possible to filibuster and turn things around after two or four years of pain.
Sure, McCain has SOME good points, but also a history of compromising, ALWAYS with the left, never with the right. Will he face down congress over SCOTUS appointments? I doubt it.
So it becomes a matter of conscience and individual choice. Which is worse, a Communist/Muslim/black-power-advocate Obama, or Maverick McCain, subverting the party from within and leaving no other choice to vote for down the line?
I honestly don’t know WHAT I will do, come November. Meantime, I am still praying for a miracle before we come to that.
I didn't get the email putting you in charge. What day was it sent out.
However, as a veteran, I promise not to lift one finger to help elect LIBERAL, mccain.
Better the enemy before me than behind me.
“McCain on the Issues - Veterans”
Looking forward to you posting “McCain on Illegals”
“McCain on Free Political Speech”
“McCain on Gorebull Warming”
Looking real forward to that.
“To those “one issue” voters,”
You just posted ONE ISSUE whereas those of us against McBackstabber have a whole host of issues that we can name, not just one. Would you like a list?
Are you a member of the campaign or the RNC?
Must have missed that.
BJ- I think Tom DeLay stated it something like this,”John McCain has done more to stop the Conservative movement that any other single person”
So I don’t what he says, I don’t trust him.
In his own words he stated he is a proud LIBERAL Republican.
SCREW Juan McCain.
BTW- you haven’t posted where he indicated he would work to overthrow Burma.
I do not understand why you posted to me.
BJ- I noticed where your boss has staff going after the voters who blog.
Also noted that not many read or comment on your posts.
Tell McMoron if he wants the conservative vote he needs dump socialism and his sociist buds.
Yes, you are quite right. The problem is there is no rational cure for xenophobia because xenophobia is irrational. No matter what the McCain bashers say, to a person, what grinds them is McCain, President Bush and Senator Kennedy dared to offer a solution for 12 million or more illegals.
They killed the solution but after the election, regardless of who is president, immigration will be dealt with. Ditto for some beginning effort to control carbon dioxide emissions into the atmosphere. On this later score, no one sure, but like in medicine, one has to make life or death decisions with incomplete or conflicting information.
Name calling and egregious insults lack an empirical foundation; hence, only those who have no other recourse rely on this form of argumentation.
“Looking forward to you posting ...”
Well, there’s only two possible outcomes in November, so to put things into context, it’d more like:
McCain on Illegals vs. Obama on Illegals
McCain on Free Political Speech vs. Obama on Free Political Speech
McCain on Gorebull Warming vs. Obama on Gorebull Warming
...
McCain was far from my choice for a candidate who has a reasonably chance to beat whatever Rat gets the nomination.
BobJ has stated his intentions to post many threads on stances by McCain and IMO he should be respected for doing it whether a person agrees with him or not.
As to why I posted to you it should be evident, this thread is about veterans and not 10 or 50 other possible subjects regarding McCain.
McCain on Illegals vs. Obama on Illegals
McCain on Free Political Speech vs. Obama on Free Political Speech
McCain on Gorebull Warming vs. Obama on Gorebull Warming
Must be all of those “vast differences” that I keep hearing about.
“McCain was far from my choice for a candidate who has a reasonably chance to beat whatever Rat gets the nomination.”
Given that there are ONLY Rats running this year, your statement makes no sense.
“BobJ has stated his intentions to post many threads on stances by McCain and IMO he should be respected for doing it whether a person agrees with him or not.”
That’s fine. I’m just looking forward to Bob J posting ALL of McBackstabbers’ stances on issues, not just ones that make him look good.
“As to why I posted to you it should be evident, this thread is about veterans and not 10 or 50 other possible subjects regarding McCain”
Bob J said (on this thread) that those of us that oppose McBackstabber are one issue voters. I was offering to prove that thought demonstrably false. Didn’t concern you. Still doesn’t.
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