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US Navy launches its first Littoral Combat Ship
Gizmag.com ^ | 05/15/08 | Gizmag.com

Posted on 05/17/2008 3:42:33 AM PDT by Reaganesque

May 15, 2008 With naval battles on the high seas now virtually extinct for the U.S. armed forces, the navy's role has become more one of infantry invasion and airstrike support - and with this new role comes a need for vessels more suited to littoral (just offshore) operations. The initial order was placed back in 2005, and the first delivery, the U.S.S. Independence, has just been launched, a speedy trimaran with helicopter decks, a stealthy radar profile and a healthy array of arms. It's configurable to suit a wide array of littoral combat missions, including minesweeping, anti-submarine and surface combat support - and now that we've seen it in the flesh, it wouldn't look the least bit out of place soaring over the credits of a Star Wars movie.

The U.S.S. Independence is the first of a projected fleet of between 50 and 100 littoral combat ships (LCSs) the US Navy will be adding to their fleet over the coming years. Built on a well-proven Australian-designed trimaran platform from Austal, the LCS is fast, stealthy and well suited to a range of offshore combat support missions.

The rear deck is suitable for two Seahawk helicopters, and can also support Harrier jump-jets if necessary. Onboard weaponry includes a 57mm Bofors gun, four .50 caliber guns, chaff, missile and torpedo decoy launchers, an 11-missile SeaRAM launcher, 8 Harpoon surface-to-surface missiles, mine detection and towed array sonar units, and a vertical launching system for ASROC-style surface missiles or Evolved Sea Sparrow type missile defenses.

The U.S.S. Inedpendence was built and delivered by General Dynamics, as part of a four-ship evaluation plan. Two were to be built by General Dynamics, two by Lockheed Martin, and the designs were to be evaluated to determine the superior design. Sadly, cost blowouts by both General Dynamics and Lockheed Martin have seen the remaining three evaluation ships cancelled and the Navy is putting together a new bidding program to have the remaining three evaluation ships contracted and built.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: generaldynamics; harriers; launch; littoral; navy; secondlcs; trimaran; ussindependence
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To: jabonz08

maybe the idea is its protected by helicopters it carries. why waste space and money on fixed gun emplacements on the boat when you can launch killer aircraft for CAP.


21 posted on 05/17/2008 4:49:43 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Reaganesque
There are a simply astonishing series of wildly inaccurate articles about LCS being posted on "technology" sites.

The U.S.S. Independence is the first of a projected fleet of between 50 and 100 littoral combat ships (LCSs)

The "official" number in the USN 30-year shipbuilding plan is 55. Given the cost overruns of the program, and the fact that the plan isn't remotely a achievable in the USN budget, the actual figure is going to end up being some number under 55.

The rear deck is suitable for two Seahawk helicopters, and can also support Harrier jump-jets if necessary.

There are not going to be any Harriers going anywhere near this thing.

Onboard weaponry includes a 57mm Bofors gun, four .50 caliber guns, chaff, missile and torpedo decoy launchers, an 11-missile SeaRAM launcher, 8 Harpoon surface-to-surface missiles, mine detection and towed array sonar units, and a vertical launching system for ASROC-style surface missiles or Evolved Sea Sparrow type missile defenses.

There's NO provision or intention of carrying Harpoon missiles and there's no VLS for ASROC or Evolved Sea Sparrow. There's no on-board sonars at all. All sonars, towed arrays, etc. are on unmanned boats in the ASW package.

There are, however, small VLS units for the small NLOS missile.(US Army program.)

22 posted on 05/17/2008 4:55:18 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: blueheron2

THere’s no Phalanx CIWS on LCS.

However, the Surface Warfare Module consists of an additional two 30mm stabilized gun turrets in addition to the base 57 mm gun forward.


23 posted on 05/17/2008 4:58:48 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Ken522
It sure has a big flight deck!

The LCS is designed for multi-mission capability using "plug-in" mission modules. One mission is counter-mine, with the ship operating those BIG MH-53 Sea Dragon minesweeping helicopters. Hence the need for a big deck.

The ship also needs to be able to operate USMC CH-53s (the Echos are almost as big as the Sea Dragons, same basic airframe but smaller sponsons, and I think the Kilos now in development are going to be a bit larger) and V-22s. US Army CH-47s too, I'd imagine.
24 posted on 05/17/2008 5:03:20 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: blueheron2

Despite what may be implied in some articles there’s no intention of LCS to provide gunfire support for troops ashore.


25 posted on 05/17/2008 5:05:48 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
THere’s no Phalanx CIWS on LCS.

In the artist's concept, posted above, isn't that a Phalanx mounted on top of the helo hangars (actually, it looks like a cross between a Phalanx and a RAM launcher - the R2D2 dome is clearly there)?
26 posted on 05/17/2008 5:07:00 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Broker

Would have been slick to put jet ports on the outer hulls.


27 posted on 05/17/2008 5:10:28 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: tanknetter

SEARAM is a combination of the CIWS radar and fire control with the RAM missiles, removing the 20mm gun.

http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/stellent/groups/public/documents/content/cms01_055726.pdf


28 posted on 05/17/2008 5:10:34 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: blueheron2

“One Phalanx defensive weapon per side, if one fails is that side unprotected? Whats plan B?”

Appeasement? /s


29 posted on 05/17/2008 5:33:42 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Shouldn't the libs love a Hunter Thompson ticket in 08?)
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To: Strategerist

In other words we spent billions on a Navy Seal deployment platform with enough firepower to protect them if hostiles are chasing them back to the ship.


30 posted on 05/17/2008 5:36:35 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Shouldn't the libs love a Hunter Thompson ticket in 08?)
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To: Reaganesque

looks way cool ... but how many skiers can it pull?


31 posted on 05/17/2008 5:43:28 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: Reaganesque

And if the crew is half-female that would make it...


32 posted on 05/17/2008 5:50:00 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: blueheron2
Why wouldn’t a ship designed for close to shore work need a lot more guns.

Just my SWAG - This design presumes our dominant air power, information acquisition and precision firepower. It's not made to support an assault where the enemy is indicriminantly lobbing big metal and expolsives in your direction because that kind of threat does not seem to be around so much any more.

This thing is made for missions that would seriously degrade the ability of the Chicoms to wage an amphibious assault, IMHO

33 posted on 05/17/2008 6:17:58 AM PDT by frithguild (I hope for change when I give cash to the Man - but all I ever get is nickels and dimes.)
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To: Bean Counter

...a clitoral warship with a Phallus system and a SEA RAM?


34 posted on 05/17/2008 6:23:36 AM PDT by AndrewB
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To: Ken522
I take it they’ve got it figured out?

Damn! I knew we forgot something!!

35 posted on 05/17/2008 6:45:23 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: Reaganesque

Does this replace the 16” guns of the battleships?


36 posted on 05/17/2008 6:48:17 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: Jeff Head

Way cool.


37 posted on 05/17/2008 6:57:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: blueheron2

I am coming, reluctantly, to the decision that the Navy doesn’t put large guns on their ships because large guns cause collateral damage and the JAG boys (and girls) don’t think it is legal. The same philosophy seems to hold for 155 mm artillery. Too much collateral damage; 14 terrorists killed and one child. etc. etc.

The bottom line is that we will pay for our mistakes in blood.


38 posted on 05/17/2008 7:09:13 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Jeez, I don’t get the fixation on the lack of gunnery. It’s not the only boat in the navy. Aircraft carriers don’t have deck guns, and neither do submarines.


39 posted on 05/17/2008 7:16:26 AM PDT by Buckhead
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To: Reaganesque
Independence was launched in April.
40 posted on 05/17/2008 7:31:11 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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