The spanking they deserve: NRCC gets an earful (Conservatives BLAST McCain, RINOs, etc.!)

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[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

All week long, you and I have been blasting the bereft Beltway GOP leadership for their empty sloganeering and Obama-esque change obsession.

Now, the NRCC is hearing it directly on its website. Reader Fritz e-mails that the comments section in the NRCC blog post by chairman Tom Cole is sizzling hot with aggravated grass-roots conservative feedback.

Go check it out. A sample:

This is not the message I am looking to support. The message of the Replican Part should be fundumentally different than the Democrats. We don’t need to “fix” the government. We need the Federal Government to do wnat it is supposed to - protect our freedom. It should not try to be eveyones “Daddy” Healthcare is not the Federal Governments responsibility. If my new my situation, you might take these comments more seriously. I am not some rich guy who wants to pay less taxes and who can afford to pay for the high prices of healthcare. I just know that government, in general, is inefficiant and wasteful and would like to see less governement programs instead of more.

Posted: Steve Bryant on May 16, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Republicians think the way to Win is to Out “Liberal” the Liberals! McCain will be defeated by his views and disregard of Values. Obama will win. If we put up with Jimmy Carter for 4 years….Let Obama and the Dem’s take all the Credit for DESTRUCTION that will follow.I will either not vote or vote for Ron Paul. NO McCain.

Posted: Greatdanes on May 16, 2008 at 1:07 PM

PLEASE….you are kidding??!! John McCain is the republican candidate for President. So, which LIBERAL should I vote for. Let’s see OBAMA(Marxist), CLINTON(Marxist), MCCAIN(Open border/amnesty liberal). I have changed my party affiliation to independent. I will not vote for anyone who says one thing during the primary and when they think they have the nomination locked up, tell how they truly feel. John McCain “DIDN’T GET IT” after-all.

So if the RNCC is going to support this liberal RINO, then you and are at odds from here on out. No more money, no more support.

Posted: Terry on May 16, 2008 at 1:08 PM

No conservative American gets up in the morning looking for a government handout. They go to work and support their families. I have 2 questions for you. When everyone is collecting who will be paying? Why are we not using the resources for energy here in America that God gave us? STOP BEING RINOS. Either LEAD,FOLLOW, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY.

Posted: Maureen McInerney on May 16, 2008 at 1:15 PM

All you guys have shown us is how to loose. The Republicans had the Congress and the Presidency and you debated flag burning! Where is our energy policy? Why are we burning our food supplies? Where is the debate on “global warming”? I can’t support you, you all need to go.

Posted: 19852 on May 16, 2008 at 1:16 PM

It’s rather evident, the Real Republicans are telling you the GOP, the RINO’s are in charge, they are no better than the libs and their values are not those of conservatives. We want the Republican platform adhered to and the speeches to reflect our values as Republicans, not fence sitting RINO ways.

Real Republicans do not have barb wire rash.

Posted: ONTIME on May 16, 2008 at 1:17 PM

Your message sounds like more big government. I am conservative and want a conservative message. I want to support conservative candidates. The three congressional seats that the democrats just won were won by democrats that had a conservative message. Republicans have lost their way. The party has gone back to the good old boy party of elite country club moderates. That is not the way to win elections or raise money. I will certainly read your e-mails but will not support any candidate that does not espouse a conservtive agenda. I hope the party will adopt that philosophy and then carry through.

Posted: Lynda Shackelford on May 16, 2008 at 1:22 PM

…I’ve got a Republican Solution for you: Tighten the belt or lose the pants. And here’s a Positive Agenda Item for you: I Positively DO NOT need a Nanny and am tired of you thinking that I do.

Here’s a thought: Why don’t you figure out what you stand for? You’re starting to sound like you’re falling for anything. I won’t be following you there.

Posted: Colleen on May 16, 2008 at 1:31 PM

…I’m sorry, but there is no way I can/will contribute until I hear the Republican party taking on the fight against the global warming HOAX, drilling in ANWAR, and absolutely protecting our borders against illeagal immigrants. As an example of what I would like to hear, every Republican senator should have jumped on Dick Durbin’s comment “we can’t drill for lower prices” after the amendment to drill in Anwar was defeated. In the circumstances we find ourselves, that is one of the most stupid comments I have ever heard from any politician. To the best of my knowledge, the laws of supply and demand have not been overturned by the liberal judges…yet.

Just one example of many that could turn the party around.

Posted: Rod on May 16, 2008 at 1:42 PM

I’m a middle-class conservative business owner who is still outraged that the GOP leadership in this country decided to make medications part of the entitlements available for all medicare recipients.

I’ve reached that golden age when I am eligible for medicare myself. A lot of us can and should pay for our own prescriptions. For those that are unable to pay, there is a place for this largesse.

Since the government got in the business, the price of my meds has increased 30% across the board. I live on the Canadian border and have friends and family on both sides of the border. Heaven protect us from the kind of “free” healthcare they must endure.

When has the government ever done anything as cheaply and efficiently as the free market?

I come from 3 generations of straight ticket Democrats. Jimmy Carter was the last time I voted for a democratic candidate.

I doubt I’ll be able to stomach voting for McCain unless he gives me some solid reasons why I should. His “reaching across the aisle” only demonstrates a big lack of judgment.

Celeste Colson May 16,2008 12:51 CDT

Posted: Celeste Colson on May 16, 2008 at 1:45 PM

So let me get this straight - I have a choice between McCain or Hillary or Obama? Did I just say I have a choice? I think I just had a 52 yr-old brain cramp. I do not vote for RINOs. None of these 3 are qualified to run this country. If the Repubs are not different than the Demoncrats then what is the use? We speak with our votes - we vote for someone else. Vote for a spoiler? No, we vote our conscience. If the MSM or the NRCC want to consider them a spoiler - so be it. Get a clue already!. Abandoning conservatism means no money, no support, no vote from me.

Posted: PEPPER on May 16, 2008 at 1:49 PM

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The LOTUS blog is selling a fitting t-shirt for the times.

[CottonBall]

Attacking GOP minority leaders is diversion from the essential task of saving the country from the depredations of the Democrat majority.

Do you work for the NRCC? You seem to have the same mind-set they have and are also ignoring the well-written opinions (over 500 of them, I'm told) of conservative posters. You are the one with the diversionary tactics, trying to bring the issue back to 'us' vs 'them', when there is no such thing. It is all 'them', leaving conservatives with nobody to vote for.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

There's a word for political parties which -- when increasingly confronted by anger and rejection on the part of the electorate -- routinely blame said voters for "not getting it," rather than re-examiming their own product for warts and flaws.

That word is "losers."

[WOSG]

I will not hestitate at all.

I will vote for McCain readily knowing I have reservations and disagreements on a few issues and common ground on many key issues - Iraq, taxes, spending, judges, pork, litigation.

Those whining about mcCain are narcissists. They have their own image, ego, and issues are not voting/thinking based on the simple patriotic question “Who is best for the *country*, McCain or Obama?”

We have plenty of time to clean out the RINO cr*p in the GOP stables, so long as the *country* remains intact. We cannot assure that will be the case with President Obama, he is that bad that the country as a whole will never be the same. Even his slogans are recycled communist themes!! ... With a Democrat Congress likely, we cannot afford a Democrat free-ride.

[CottonBall]

The Whig party was fractured based on the slavery issue, leading to its demise. The Republican party is fractured based on numerous issues, among them illegal immigration, size and scope of government, spending, and free speech. It deserves the same fate if it can’t readjust itself back to its conservative platform.

[WOSG]

“The RINOS need to go, the message should be vote out the incumbents”

The Democrats are a majority in both houses, so the anti-incumbent message needs to be a message that removes that Democrat majority from power.

[CottonBall]

That word is "losers."

That's what they were in 2006 and 2008 will be no exception. I am amazed at the blinders they are wearing.

[kalee]

Bookmark to email link to County GOP chairman in AM

I told him Thurs night we were in serious trouble this year.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

That's what they were in 2006 and 2008 will be no exception.

They'd genuinely rather lose, than "give in" to the conservative voting base within their own party. Sad, but true.

[CottonBall]

Those whining about mcCain are narcissists. They have their own image, ego, and issues are not voting/thinking based on the simple patriotic question “Who is best for the *country*, McCain or Obama?”

Yes, insulting people always gets them to want to evaluate your side. The 'simple patriotic' part is too, too simple. The lesser of evils is still evil. And based on the past, evil only begets even more evil. (Bush first, then an even worse McCain. Is Kennedy (R) next?)

We have plenty of time to clean out the RINO cr*p in the GOP stables, so long as the *country* remains intact.

See the previous paragraph. We are knee-deep in RINO crap and it's getting worse with each election - NOT better.

[WOSG]

“Do you work for the NRCC?”

Do you work for Soros, Obama, and the Democrats? All you do is bash Republicans and take glee and their current doldrums. that’s not a conservative position, that’s just kneejerk anti-GOP.

” You seem to have the same mind-set”
My mindset is to be proactive and do the right thing for my values and my country.

Here’s what the GOP should do, and btw it is what many GOP Reps are supporting:
Stuff like this that was posted on the blog:

1) Drilling for domestic oil i.e. ANWR, Bakken Formation (ND), and off shore.
2) Support nuclear power plant, fast track utilities plans to build nuclear plants.
3) Forget about ethanol
4) Pass legislation to stop the boutique gas formulations.
5) Protect our 2nd ammendment rights for all firearms. Even the lowly 6-shooter is a semi-auto.
6) We don’t need a nanny. Government is meant to protect our freedoms. Not restrict them. McCain is wrong on campaign finance reform.
7) Protect our borders. Stop illegal immigration NOW. Reform legal immigration, friends who have immigrated have to hire high powered lawyers... This should not be necessary.
8) Pass legislation to build a natural gas pipeline from the north slope to the US or to Canada.

9) Forget about cap-and-trade on carbon. It is a hoax get over it.

10) DEMAND A VOTE ON MAKING BUSH TAX CUTS PERMANENT. FIGHT THE DEMOCRATS ON TAXES 24/7.

11) FIGHT THE DEMOCRAT MAJORITY 24/7 ON GWOT.

12) FIGHT THE DEMOCRAT MAJORITY 24/7 ON THEIR OVER-SPENDING AND LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN GOVT.

13) FIGHT THE DEM MAJORITY ON TORT REFORM

14) END USELESS BOONDOGGLES AND ZERO OUT EARMARKS AND PORK.

And put it all together in
A CONSERVATIVE GOP AGENDA FOR THE NEXT CONGRESS

“they have and are also ignoring the well-written opinions (over 500 of them, I’m told) of conservative posters.”
BULL. These views are WELL represented in the MANY conservative Congressmen and activists who work DAILY with Rep Cole and others.

You are the us vs them, I am saying *WE* conservatives have to stick together and support conservative candidates for Congress ... there are HUNDREDS OF THEM.

[Eagles6]

save

[CottonBall]

They'd genuinely rather lose, than "give in" to the conservative voting base within their own party. Sad, but true.

'tis sad. I can't figure out if they're so arrogant they think we'll vote for them anyway (the cash flow issue should be a clue for them), or so stupid they don't see a problem, or as you said, they don't care if they lose. Any of the above is ridiculous!

[WOSG]

Ignorance of history is ignorance. comments on the blog that are pointless bashing drivel are not ‘wisdom’. It’s says mroe about your mindset than about reality.

The GOOD comments are the point-blank “do this” Stuff. Like:

1. Cut spending, cut earmarks, cut subsidies.
2. No universal healthcare. I’m military, I have “universal healthcare” and it is terrible. People screaming for universal healthcare are ignorant about what that means and will not be satisfied with what is available.
3. School vouchers. Don’t worry, our working class kids won’t be invading all of the politicians kids private schools. Even with vouchers we wouldn’t be able to afford the cost. However, we should be able to have some input/choice of where our children go to school. If you think the current system is working check out the drop out rates throughout the country.
4. Secure our borders/Enforce the immigration laws, no amnesty. That the two border patrol agents trying to protect our country are still in jail is a national disgrace.
5. A working energy plan. How about coal to gasoline? Just a thought. Hopefully, President Bush begging the Saudis for more oil and be told to go away was a wake up call.
6. Embrace the internet and realize the rules of the game have changed. You can no longer sneak things through on the citizens, did you not learn with the last failed attempt at amnesty? The internet is a great mobilization tool, use it to your advantage.
7. Drop the modernize our laws line. It is much ado about nothing. Until you start enfrocing laws, it doesn’t matter one iota what you change.
8. Grow some skin, the party gives the appearance of being afraid of criticism so we end up with things like polar bears on endangered species list even though the supporting evidence was thin.

AND THIS ...

f the Republicans want to win the hearts and minds of REAL America, here is the PROMISE you should force all Republicans candidates running for office at all levels of government sign and pledge to implement:

Secure the Borders
Elminate funding for sanctuary cities and states
Voter ID Law AND proof of citizenship to register
English as our national language
Severely punish businesses that hire illegals, have a mandatory, accurate way to check ID to get jobs legally.
End the “anchor babies” path to citizenship and government handouts
Gain Energy Independence (drill everywhere, build nuclear plants, build more refineries, develop new energy alternatives)
Stengthen our Defense
Win the war on Terror and give law enforcement and the first responders the tools to protect at home
Stop the Nanny state mentality - it is NOT the government’s role to help me balance my family, job, and other responsibilities
End ALL Earmarks and pork spending - scrap the entire budget and start over, justify EVERY program or end them. I bet this would reduce government spending by one third right away.
Pass the Fair Tax, abolish this insane tax code
End all corruption, ZERO Tolerance
Put education back in the hands of the local school boards

Even if you adopted HALF of these ideas as a PROMISE to the Americans, you would win the election in a landslide. However, you have let the Democrats run circles around you, you have let the main stream press define you, and you are pandering to liberals who want to ruin this country. You have lost your base. You have to work hard to win it back. You have ruined the “brand”.

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I am not against *constructive* criticism of hapless GOP leaders. I’ve made it myself. I am against pointless bashing that celebrates the GOP losing to the far far far far worse Democrats.

Because it is that simple: GOP loses = leftwing socialist Democrat majority wins.

[Politicalmom]

Wow, I got a new tagline out of that!! :)

[WOSG]

“The ‘simple patriotic’ part is too, too simple. “

Really now. Voting for what is best for the country is ‘too simple’?

Are you one of those elitist liberal college professor types who will educate me out of *PATRIOTISM*??!??

Go ahead, tell me how patriotism is such a bad thing in voting.

[WOSG]

BS, what state are you in?

[CottonBall]

First, I’m not advocating any candidate of or the positions of the Democrats, so your comment was irrevelant. However, you ARE supporting the NRCC by saying we need to vote for Republicans, conservative or not.

I have no glee at all at seeing the country head into obscurity. Our once superpower status will be all but a memory in another generation or two. All because the Republicans refused to stick to a conservative agenda and let the Dems take over (whether in the form of a RINO or a Dem).

I do like your outline for what the GOP should do. As you noticed, it is included in many of the suggestions on the blog. So why discount those posts when you are reiterating something similar?

I am all for any conservative congressmen, whether a D or R. How I differ from you (I believe) is that just because someone has an R next to their name doesn’t make them worthy of a vote. It’s their record that counts. Sadly, nowadays, some Democrats are more conservative than many Republicans. These fuzzy lines are what will do in the Republican party. Those that don’t follow closely won’t be able to tell the difference between their conservative congressman and a RINO president - and the conservative will get the fallout of the actions of the RINO. That will be McCain’s worst legacy.

[Politicalmom]

I wish I still had the address for that board the Congress staff hangs out on.

They just oozed profane contempt for the voters. I’d like to see their reactions to this.

[CottonBall]

Ignorance of history is ignorance. comments on the blog that are pointless bashing drivel are not ‘wisdom’. It’s says mroe about your mindset than about reality.

A laundry list of what the GOP needs to do is fine and dandy, certainly needed, but boring reading if each and every poster posts one. It's the level of anger and frustration that is obvious by the comments that you disapprove of that I find most interesting. People left with no options to tend to lash out, like a cornered animal. Chastising them for it and saying they need to 'calm down' is pointless (and insulting, as McCain was when he said it).

[CottonBall]

Are you one of those elitist liberal college professor types who will educate me out of *PATRIOTISM*??!??

Now you're attempting to use the distraction technique again. First, by trying to insult me. Second, by making me assume your premise that you are patriotic because you're voting for McCain.

Neither one worked.