Posted on 05/16/2008 9:06:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
His most recent anti-gun move was in 04 with that gun show vote.
Seems to me we are starting to see the first signs mcnutts will start pandering to conservatives on the usual issues.Anyone want to bet on that?I think his campaign might be noticing the lack of funds coming into the coffers.
I think he co-sponsored the gun show loop hole bill, with his good friends Lieberman and Ted,as he calls it. There is no such of a thing. But it shows how insane the old man is.
The actual real results that people like McCain are after is to make the private sells of firearms between individuals illegal, without going to a dealer. It is the old nose under the tent thing. If it become illegal for individuals to buy and sell firearms, they would lose 50% of their value over night.
Thanks for proving my point. Nobody ever mentions buying from a dealer, they just blather on about no background checks at gun shows. And this article makes it seem like McCain is for them (and for checks on transfers between non-releatives) and the NRA is against them.
As for the NRA rating, a big part of that is not due to McCain's gun record, but McCain-Fiengold, which the NRA quite properly opposed vehemently. I was just referring to his record on guns alone, which is good with the exception of supporting background checks at gun shows. I'm not sure if that bill included other private transfers, which is much worse (and something we already have here in CA).
The GOA rating is ridiculous. If McCain is an F, what are Obama and Hillary? Triple F- ?
McCain will sell out gun owners as part of his “reaching across the aisle”, sure as shootin’.
All three presidential hopefuls have said they want to “close the gun show loophole,” and Mayors Against Illegal Guns is holding them to their word.
http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/html/media-center/youtube_041408.shtml
McCain on Gun Show Loop Hole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1c4Ko2KvEw
McCain voted against the Brady bill and the assault weapons ban.
What started as a "reasonable" check to see if a potential buyer was a felon or a mental patient or a drug user was expanded to include anyone who was accused of violence against women and then anyone that had a protective order against them (ex-husbands are very familiar with how easy those are to come by) and now includes misdemeanors in the past that would have been upgraded to felonies in the present.
The worst part is that the government has no requirement to tell a potential buyer what the sale is being restricted of and there is no readily available appeal process. It is also nearly impossible to see your own record within the database and get an item removed.
The antigunners are getting exactly what they wanted with this system but as far as I can tell, nobody is doing anything to stop it.
True. But while McCain’s brand of gun control will make us sick, Obama’s and Hillery’s will kill us.
Duh!
The right to bear arms in the Constitution's second amendment is considered sacred by many U.S. gun owners.
This quote tells you EXACTLY where the author stands on the issue. But there's no bias in the MSM, honest.
But the Arizona senator accused the two Democrats of giving only "theoretical" support to the second amendment.
"They claim to support hunters and gun owners. But just because they don't talk about gun control doesn't mean they won't support gun control," McCain told a convention of the National Rifle Association.
"If either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama is elected president, the rights of law-abiding gun owners will be at risk. They have both voted as senators to ban guns or ban ammunition or to allow gun makers to be sued out of existence," he said.
Again, Duh!
"I'm very well versed in the use of firearms. I carried a firearm in combat. I've used them in the past. I'm just not a hunter," said McCain
Same here (no combat experience, of course). I don't care for wild game at all. But, I don't own my guns for hunting.
I don’t trust any of them and McCain is also in full political mode now and he will say what ever he thinks the crowd he’s facing wants to hear and then turn around and ask Feinstien , Kennedy , Lieberman and the rest of his rino cohorts for their liberal opinions . I almost think McCain is running as a democrat in the R party .
Well said.
"I think people have the right to lawfully bear arms. I do believe that there is nothing inconsistent with also saying that we can institute some common-sense gun laws so that we don't have kids being shot on the streets of cities like Chicago," Obama said while campaigning in South Dakota.
Okay asshat. So what you're saying is besides IL's Firearms laws, that Chicago's additional and existing 39 pages (in size 4 font) of Firearms Laws aren't enough, are to lenient and don't go far enough and 'we' need more. Is that about it sh*t for brains.
Well sorry 'senator' I don't know how you can get any more 'common sense' than having it required that all Cap Pistols be registered with the Chicago Police Dept. /s
Yeah, that's really flucking 'sensible' that I'd have to register my Nichols Stallion 45 CAP GUN with the cops if I moved back to that hell hole. (like when Monkeys fly out of my butt)
Which time, and which vote.
Actually I think the opposite would occur. Prices would rise. They always do when regulations restrict the supply or number of suppliers.
The real problem is that all guns would then become easily traceable. The "background check" and the yellow form 4473 provide that traceability. But the next step, already in work, is to make the background check into a true registration scheme, with the electronic record of the sale permanently stored and easily searchable by name and/or address. I can imagine a President Obama or Clinton II, with a majority Congress and filibuster proof Senate, declaring that all past 4473s must be copied and the copies sent to BATFE for conversion to a permanent electronic record, as many already have been. (not that the backups of the instant background check don't provide the same capability quicker)
Actually, yes. It's bad and very, very bad.
Wrong!!!! The harder it is to buy and sell, the less people will do so, then the cost of the deal would increase by about 10% to 20%.
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