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Hating Bush C'mon, everybody's doing it!
Modern Conservative ^ | May 16, 2008 | Christopher Cook

Posted on 05/16/2008 4:56:22 PM PDT by thinkingIsPresuppositional

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To: roses of sharon

This Bush hatred sickness has gone from pathology to something more extreme than I ever thought I would see.... and I think the roots are in a simple phenomenom.

The left and a lot on the right cannot accept that a politician or a President can simply say what is on his mind and go about doing what he thinks is right.

Because they cannot accept that, they are forced to invent an alternate universe that has a sinister character they call Bush and fill it with all kinds of fanciful ideas and motivations.

The game that is played is “what is Bush really up to?” or some variation of it and because none of this constuct makes a lot of sense they are constantly tripped up ...Bush is “stupid” but he outfoxes people right and left so therefore it must be Cheney or Rove controlling him or telling him what to do.

It is this distorted picture that they all hate which is a sick delusion they are sure is reality.

This is a question someone posed and my reply from another thread which sums up what I think we got for the last 8 years from the “worst president in history”:

Tell me what did conservatives get out of it?

We got what liberals, independents, and all Americans got... We got to not be attacked since 9/11 by vicious fanatical Muslim nazis who have no problem killing you and themselves in the name of Allah.We got to watch as their infrastucture and organization has been largely decimated in a foreign land whose wealth could buy them any weapon man can devise. We got to see some reasonably honest people struggle with a world that spiraled out of control as the country and Bill Clinton were lulled to sleep by a nice girl named Monica and we get to watch as those who think WE are the nazis beat a drum daily that our president is the bogeyman.


41 posted on 05/16/2008 8:05:04 PM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie
Yes, the conspiracies are amazing, with Clinton, he had the media to protect him, simply deeming detractors as “haters”.

With Pres Bush, they promote and advertise conspiracies, ie, Michael Moore's movie.

He simply could not have played a tit-for-tat with the MSM, it is impossible to run a 24/7/365 political campaign, and wars in two theaters. It takes time,logistics, and money to run a political campaign.

I notice many inaccuracies of facts and timelines even on this thread, about WMD, Iraq, and such. Just imagine what the public must think, if even here we cannot get it right.

Most Presidents have had a basic right in this country, a media who felt an obligation to the even smallest of truths, FDR did not face even a fraction of the propaganda and lies by national media that this Pres has.

Clinton's “war room” of MSM/DNC/Hollywood/Academia dehumanized this President as a political opponent, which leads to hatred, fear, conspiracies, and radicalism.

It was an unprecedented betrayal of the Pres, our military, and our country, and I will always hate them for it, and will never forgive them. This I will pass down thru future generations, as we all should.

42 posted on 05/16/2008 8:40:01 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: cake_crumb

I believe you’ve completely lost your mind, man. That is the most unhinged rant I have read here in a long time.


43 posted on 05/16/2008 10:38:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: thinkingIsPresuppositional

Three things, and they’re big one, that I’m pleased with Bush about: WAR ON TERROR, Robert and Alito.


44 posted on 05/16/2008 11:01:43 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: roses of sharon

Very well stated


45 posted on 05/16/2008 11:42:20 PM PDT by woofie
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To: cake_crumb
"We" Republicans took a man who lifted us up out of the rubble of 9/11, inspired us not only to fight the enemy that Bill Clinton almost completely ignored for the sake of his "legacy", but equally importantly reminded us of how EASY it is to work together in the face of adversity and we threw him under the bus just like Barack Hussein Obama did his racist mentor. Around Katrina, many "conservatives" damned that same man for not breaking the 11th Amendment the way Bill did at Waco, and it was straight downhill on greased rails from there. "Real" conservatives hate Mexicans with with that same gnawing, visceral hatred that Democrats reserve for him, while American jobs were being funneled to CHINA via BILL CLINTON'S PNTR - but China isn't Mexico, so that's ok. We aided and abetted the enemy. In a time of war, we aided and abetted the enemy. We've cut the legs out from under our leader because little l libertarians hate George Bush just like Cindy Sheehan does. Just like her boyfriend, Lew Rockwell the Real Conservative. We're Code Pink, we "conservatives" are. We only lack the groovy T shirts. President George Bush, though he HAS disappointed us on occasion, but not nearly as much as some conservatives have disappointed him. We DESERVE McCain.

Best rant on FRee Republic since Pukin Dogs manifesto.

46 posted on 05/16/2008 11:42:41 PM PDT by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: Ilya Mourometz
"He will not merely be considered one of America’s great presidents, he will be hailed as a great patron of humanity itself."

I agree! Bless you!
47 posted on 05/17/2008 5:47:18 AM PDT by connell (I will not cease from mental fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: 1rudeboy

I read the article, I’ve purchased her books, and I’ll check out her columns in WSJ when I have free time. There are plenty of well written Conservative articles that I don’t need to look up to in order to read. Maybe I’m beneath her intended audience.

My comments were based on the collection of her recent writings.


48 posted on 05/17/2008 7:35:05 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: cake_crumb

Tell me where I’m wrong (and get a new joke).


49 posted on 05/17/2008 8:39:37 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I'm just a typical bitter, white, heteronormative space worm clinging to guns and God.)
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To: mimaw

Point out where I’m wrong. Can you?


50 posted on 05/17/2008 8:40:16 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I'm just a typical bitter, white, heteronormative space worm clinging to guns and God.)
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To: blueyon
I agree with the second half of your statement. I credit Bush with 4 accomplishments. First, the Afghan campaign to oust the Taliban. Brilliant. Stunning. Amazing. Second, I credit Bush with the Iraq campaign to oust Saddam. An amazing example of warcraft. Third, here Bush gets only a point and a half for his Roberts and Alito confirmations. A half point has been deducted for the Harriet Miers' nomination. And Bush gets a half point for the tax cuts. He loses half a point for the idiotic time limit on them and for zero follow up by making them permanent, when he could've right after his re-election.

Don't get me started on his mistakes, blunders, foul ups and lack of any vision.

Can anyone tell me, what Bush has accomplished in his second term?

51 posted on 05/17/2008 8:48:26 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I'm just a typical bitter, white, heteronormative space worm clinging to guns and God.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

.....He loses half a point for the idiotic time limit .....

Not his fault or doing. He had to accept this limitation or lose them. He made the correct choice and should be awarded the full point. He is only President, not all powerful God.


52 posted on 05/17/2008 8:50:51 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: bert

OK, I don’t remember how the time limit got into the bill. I thought it was part of the deal from the start. Who could possibly vote for a tax cut with a time limit and vote against a tax cut without a time limit? What kind of thinking produces that kind of result?


53 posted on 05/17/2008 4:05:02 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I'm just a typical bitter, white, heteronormative space worm clinging to guns and God.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

.......What kind of thinking produces that kind of result?.....

Duplicitious Rats who hope to get a more auspicious crack at killing it did the thinking on the time limit.


54 posted on 05/17/2008 4:12:47 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Second, I credit Bush with the Iraq campaign to oust Saddam. An amazing example of warcraft....Don't get me started on his mistakes, blunders, foul ups and lack of any vision.

Unfortunately the two are intimately related. Ousting Sadam was the easy part. The what next was unexamined going in, bungled for several years and we are paying an enormous price. There are three enormous and predictable consequences of getting bogged down in a blunder: 1. He used his political capital on Iraq rather than on real strategic security issues like energy security (nuclear, etc.) 2. By getting bogged down the debt as soared, the dollar has soured, and in our idiot bailout of the idiot banks we have soaring inflation and a commodities bubble. 3. Just hope and pray no one tries stirring anything up because we are going to be so bogged down in Iraq for several more years, and bogged down in debt paying for it all for so many years that our strategic mobility will be nigh on nil.

Lack of vision and lack of thorough analysis is how we got here. A blunder is when you get yourself into a position you cannot back your way out of, and that is where we are.

55 posted on 05/17/2008 4:47:16 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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