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WWII Dambusters raid revisited

Members of the 617 squadron were honoured after the raid
Members of the 617 squadron were honoured after the raid

On the 65th anniversary of the Dambusters raid, a re-enactment watched by the last living pilot from the operation took place. It marked perhaps the most famous operation ever carried out by the RAF. BBC North of England Correspondent Danny Savage was there.

The event was marked by a flypast by a Lancaster bomber over the Derwent Dam in Derbyshire - used as a practice target for training the crews.

It was an operation which the cynics thought would probably never succeed.

 

Not only were aircrews asked to fly ridiculously low but the bombs they were using had performed with mixed results during practice.

Tricky execution

The idea was simple: fly a plane low over a German reservoir and drop a single bomb which would bounce on the water and sink against the dam wall.

 

The resulting explosion would shatter the dam and disable a key supply of water and electricity. But executing it was far from simple.

Exactly 65 years ago, 19 Lancaster bombers from 617 squadron took off from RAF Scampton in Lincolnshire on the mission.

Many of the young men were aged just in their early twenties and had spent the hours beforehand sitting on the grass in the sunshine at Scampton playing cards or kicking a football around.

Surprisingly little has changed at the airfield.

The runways have been concreted, but the hangars the Lancasters were kept in are now Grade II listed buildings. The wild flowers still grow.

Fifty three of the 133 men who set out on the raid didn't come back.

The operation made Sqn Ldr Guy Gibson a household name and outside one of the hangars is the grave of his equally famous black Labrador - Nigger - who was run over on the day of the mission and buried at midnight just as his master was over his target.

Take a big plane like a Lancaster and try to fly that down to 60ft at night - you have one of the most incredible pieces of flying skills you will ever see.
 
Sqn Ldr Al Pinner

 

For weeks beforehand the crews had flown countless flights over lakes, reservoirs and dams in England and Wales.

With just days to go before the mission they were told they would have to approach the target at just 60ft (18m) above the water.

Altitude meters of the time were just not accurate enough, so two spotlights were fitted to each aircraft. When they matched up side by side, the plane was at the right height.

Their targets were dams close to the river Ruhr in Germany.

Not only did they hold back millions of gallons of water vital for the German war machine, they also produced power.

If the dams could be broken then vast areas would be flooded, and it would also put a dent in the enemy's war machine.

Several targets were selected but because the RAF suffered heavy losses, only two of the dams were destroyed.

But it was still regarded as a huge success and the crews, from across the Commonwealth, were hailed as heroes. A real wartime propaganda coup.

 

In the 1950s the mission was immortalised in film.

The Dambusters starred Richard Todd, was filmed on location at RAF Scampton and re-enacted the training missions over the Derwent reservoir.

The memorial to a daring raid finishes with Todd, playing Wing Cdr Guy Gibson, walking across the airfield at Scampton to write letters to the families of the men who didn't return.

Thousands of people were at the Derwent reservoir to see the flying tribute to a mission that has captured the imagination of millions of people over the years, including the last surviving Dambusters pilot, Les Munro.

 

Sqdn Ldr Al Pinner, the commanding officer of the commemorative Battle of Britain Memorial Flight said: "In peacetime nowadays, operational fighter aircraft are occasionally cleared to fly as low as 100ft and they are very small, manoeuvrable aircraft.

"Take a big plane like a Lancaster and try to fly that down to 60ft at night - you have one of the most incredible pieces of flying skills you will ever see.”

Several dams were targeted and two of them were breached.

Civilians killed

It shouldn't be forgotten that hundreds of civilians died that night as floodwaters washed down the valleys below the dams, sweeping aside farms and villages.

That sentiment is reflected by the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight marking the occasion over the Derwent Dam.

The flight's motto is "Lest We Forget". The Lancaster bomber made a series of passes over the dam followed by Tornado aircraft from today's 617 squadron.

The names of those who died in the raid are on a special memorial at in the centre of Woodhall Spa in Lincolnshire.

The memorial is shaped like a broken dam and often draws crowds of visitors.


1 posted on 05/16/2008 2:03:23 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Thank you very, very much.


2 posted on 05/16/2008 2:06:44 PM PDT by unkus
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3 posted on 05/16/2008 2:08:56 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Incredible


4 posted on 05/16/2008 2:10:09 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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5 posted on 05/16/2008 2:10:09 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (www.pinupsforvets.com)
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To: Stoat

Thanks for posting this. I love this kind of stuff and probably would have missed it. Thanks again!


10 posted on 05/16/2008 2:14:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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It shouldn't be forgotten that hundreds of civilians died that night as floodwaters washed down the valleys...

And a couple of thousand slave factory laborers, mostly women, iirc.

13 posted on 05/16/2008 2:17:35 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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Obviously, none of these WWII heroes were like today’s gutless, spineless, gonadless American Liberals!! My father served in China/Burma/India and in the Korean War. He’s turning in his grave at what DC politicians are doing to destroy this country along with the three POTUS candidates. God help us all!


14 posted on 05/16/2008 2:21:29 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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Fascinating, thanks for posting.


15 posted on 05/16/2008 2:34:40 PM PDT by SmithL (Reject Obama's Half-Vast Wright-Wing Conspiracy)
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F-A-B-U-L-O-U-S


16 posted on 05/16/2008 2:35:21 PM PDT by indcons
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MUST SEE VIDEO:

The actual flyover referenced in the posted article:

YouTube - Bomber marks Dambusters date

This one from the movie "The Dam busters"

YouTube - The Dambusters - The First Dam

YouTube search results from keyword 'dambusters'....several are pertinent, a few are not  :-)

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

19 posted on 05/16/2008 2:52:53 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Thanks for the great post, Stoat. The Dambusters raid and the sacrifice of those who participated should be remembered by all who fought the Axis powers.


22 posted on 05/16/2008 3:04:17 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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Cool pics! Wish more of those aircraft were still flying.


23 posted on 05/16/2008 3:05:33 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: Stoat

Can some of you WW2 buffs can tell me the how the Lancaster compared to other WW2 bombers? Both allies and axis.


25 posted on 05/16/2008 3:09:41 PM PDT by sasportas
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“Two dams were destroyed, but eight aircraft and 53 men were lost.”

What a massive failure. Better bring the troops home now. Oops, wrong war.

Thanks indcons for the ping, and thanks Stoat for the topic.


26 posted on 05/16/2008 3:16:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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The idea was simple: fly a plane low over a German reservoir and drop a single bomb which would bounce on the water and sink against the dam wall.

If the movie was factual, there were some ingenious methods used to allow this. Flying that bird that low at an exact speed and an exact height and releasing the bomb (which was spinning backward in the bomb bay) at the exact instant were needed for the plan to work.

Altimeters were useless at that height and they were stumped - until (in the movie anyway) Gibson was at a stage show and noticed how they used the spotlights to illuminate the actress. So, they mounted an angled spotlight on each wing, calibrated to meet at exactly 65 feet. The movie shows one of the crew talking the pilot down until there was only one light on the water.

The dam had two widely seperated towers, so they came up with the "Two Penny" bombsight. It was a "Y"-shaped stick with a handle. At each end of the "Y" they inserted a nail; the distance being calibrated so that at the exact distance the towers would line up with the nails. The bombardier held it up to his eye during the approach and when the towers lined up, he dropped the bomb.

The speed was the only thing that was determined by "regular" instruments.

The bomb had to be rotated backward so it wouldn't bounce erratically and was something like a depth charge in that it was hydrostatically set off, so it would cause the most damage at the base of the dam.

I think they lost a few planes on the way to the dam and at least one more in the attack. When one of the planes made a successful drop despite the horrific AA fire, he came in again with the next bomber to help draw away the enemy fire.

Gutsy guys. Glad to see Todd still alive and kicking - he always gave a good performance. Sad though, to see the UK in her current Politically Correct state after seeing the caliber of people she could field in a war.

Gibson was killed in 1944 when his Mosquito crashed in Holland. He didn't have to fly again but he was desperate to get back in the air and Bomber Harris finally relented. None of Gibson's bomber crew survived the war - they crashed while trying to bomb the Dortmund Ems Canal in late 1943. Of 19 planes on the original mission, 11 came back. Seventy-seven crewmembers were lost and only one of them survived, which is why the dams, which were quickly repaired, were never bombed again.

Watch the movie for a stirring experience.

28 posted on 05/16/2008 3:31:11 PM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Stoat

Wasn’t it 617 Squadron that sank the TIRPITZ with the 12,000 lb ‘Tall Boy’ bombs?


37 posted on 05/16/2008 4:41:45 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Great guys.

FYI there was a yank or two on the raid, if I recall.

38 posted on 05/16/2008 4:58:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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Speigel also has a photo essay on this topic, in German:

Staudamm-Katastrophe vor 65 Jahren

39 posted on 05/16/2008 5:36:03 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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Thank you so much for the Post. My Dad fought in WWII, as did my Mom’s brother, they are all gone now, however I love the information about WWII. I grew up on it. And it brings tears to my eyes, remembering my Dad in his uniform, how handsome he was. My Dad was in the Army Air Corp. 25 years.


41 posted on 05/16/2008 6:06:45 PM PDT by oswegodeee (Dee) ( Born in the South and raised in a G_D centered home)
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To: Stoat
No story about the Dambusters would be complete without this interesting postscript. Our Manhatten Project ran into a slight problem. It seems that we had a bomber big enough to carry the A bomb but no bomb rack in the US inventory had the capacity for the bombs. They weighed too much.

One of our engineers remembered that the British had bomb racks that could take the the weight. We borrowed some of these racks that were developed exclusively for the Dambusters. Had the British not built them, it could have delayed the A bomb drops as we would have needed to develop our own racks from scratch.

42 posted on 05/16/2008 6:19:54 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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