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Pardon Ramos and Compean
Washington Times ^ | May 15, 2008

Posted on 05/16/2008 9:51:33 AM PDT by kingattax

If President Bush would simply pardon the unjustly imprisoned former Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, we could all rest much easier knowing that in the United States, a foreign drug smuggler's word does not prevail over the word of federal agents in the line of duty.

This week, the Kentucky-based group, Christians Reviving America's Values, filed an ethics complaint with the Texas Bar Association to investigate U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, whom the group argues willfully misled a jury to convict the agents. Here is a refresher on the case for those who need it: Messrs. Ramos and Compean are serving 11- and 12-year federal prison sentences, respectively, for shooting in the buttocks an admitted drug smuggler who abandoned 743 pounds of marijuana. As the men tell it, they shot Mexican national Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila southeast of El Paso three years ago after the suspect refused the agents' orders to stop. Wounded, Mr. Aldrete-Davila fled to Mexico, leaving behind the van containing the massive drug load.

Here's the awful turn: Federal authorities subsequently located Mr. Aldrete-Davila in Mexico to offer immunity in exchange for his testimony against the border agents. He then filed a $5 million suit against the federal government for violating his civil rights.

On this man's testimony, the border agents were convicted by a federal jury on charges that included: assault with a dangerous weapon, lying about the incident and violating the alleged smuggler's Fourth Amendment right to be protected against illegal search and seizure.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: borderagents; borderpatrol; bush; compean; johnnysutton; pardon; ramos; ramosandcompean; ramoscompean
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To: Kenny Bunk
What is the status of the appeal?

Waiting... and waiting. It's all in the hands of the justices.

Sorry, but I think a pardon is the least acceptable legal alternative; a last resort in order to gain them their freedom. This case must be thrown out.

I agree.

It will also mean that any BP officer is exposed to federal whimsy and pressure from the Mexican government (whatever the hell that is).

I hope they address the misapplication of the 924(c) statute. If they don't clarify it's intended use (against drug-traffickers, not law enforcement), Congress should get busy revising the law to make sure judges and overzealous prosecutors don't try do this again.

101 posted on 05/17/2008 10:12:51 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: AndrewC
The guy who picked them up never testified that Compean told him to not tell the supervisors. You made that up. Compean never told the Vasquez(the guy we are talking about) to pick them up.

Go find the shell casings for me, but don't disturb them? LOL!

You guys are funny.

102 posted on 05/17/2008 2:30:24 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
Would those be the shell casings at the scene that was not investigated?

You mean the casings they disturbed? At the scene they didn't mention to their supervisors?

103 posted on 05/17/2008 2:39:12 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
Also, he did not know at the time that Compean did, or was going to pick up the shell casings.

So Ramos said, "We shot at this guy over there"? Why not?

104 posted on 05/17/2008 2:40:33 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
The demand is only that a supervisor be informed that a shooting took place within 1 hour. There is no demand for who report it, only that someone at the scene inform a supervisor.

So who reported their shooting?

105 posted on 05/17/2008 2:41:55 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
Ramos, nor Compean were required to tell their supervisor anything about the shooting.

That's funny!

106 posted on 05/17/2008 2:42:51 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What’s even funnier is that you do not know anything about the case.


107 posted on 05/17/2008 7:18:03 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ajnin

You’re right, they did nothing wrong. LOL!


108 posted on 05/17/2008 7:27:47 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; calcowgirl
Go find the shell casings for me, but don't disturb them? LOL!

Hey why don't you do yourself a favor and actually read the testimony. This is the same guy who testifies that he arrives at the scene hears gun shots then goes to the van to find a cell phone to peruse. But here is some fantastic reasoning by the liar.

From Vasquez testimony page 48.

Q. Until the investigation in this case began, did you tell
anyone that you knew that Agent Compean had expended 14 shell
casings on February 17, 2005?
A. No, ma'am
Q. Why not?
A. I was under the wrong impression that he was going to
report the incident. And that I was going to be called at the
time, or after.

Unbelievable!!! After telling Vasquez to "destroy" evidence to help a coverup and thus commit a felony, Compean was expected by Vasquez to report it?

If we are funny, you are downright rip-roaring, gut-busting, tear-causing hilarious!

109 posted on 05/17/2008 7:57:52 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC

OMG, Vasquez and Compean are both liars. Do you have a point somewhere?


110 posted on 05/17/2008 8:11:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; calcowgirl
OMG, Vasquez and Compean are both liars. Do you have a point somewhere?

Do you have a point? Plus, how in the heck do you know that both are liars. We certainly know that Vasquez is a liar now. Juarez is a liar. We know that Aldrete is a liar. Compean admitted shooting his pistol and picking up and disposing of some brass. He admits talking to Vasquez. He admits he slipped in the ditch while attempting to thwart a suspect who refused to halt and comply with the lawful instructions of a United States official while within the federally controlled border of Texas. Now it seems pretty obvious what point I was making. Compean was telling the truth about the contents of the discussion between he and Vasquez. Vasquez lied.

111 posted on 05/17/2008 8:19:30 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“That’s funny!”

It is true.


112 posted on 05/17/2008 8:34:02 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: kingattax

President Bush,

Pardon Ramos and Compean!


113 posted on 11/17/2008 12:30:04 AM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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