Posted on 05/15/2008 7:37:59 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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It is not the LDS....It is the FLDS! You don't want to make that mistake on these threads.
“I take from this quote that the mother, at least, has been reunited with her other children, too?”
At first, I thought that, too, but then I remembered that CPS took away the kids that were 12 months and older. I don’t know. I’m just glad she got to keep her baby so she can nurse which is healthy for mom and baby.
It isn’t a polygamy issue. It’s about the kids. CPS must have some really good bases of concern since the judge kept the kids in state custody. Actually I hope it goes well in the future for this couple. They are young and probably have the best chance of understanding what is acceptable with children and what isn’t.
I feel your pain. I don’t know who Mike Rivero is and probably don’t want to know. It’s FLDS, by the way, not LDS, but I have heard the same mistake recently on FOX News. Lord have mercy on us all.
If a house is on fire...you need to get people to safety before trying to figure out who started it.
That statement is absolutely correct......but only as far as it goes.
You should have added the caveat that the agency involved should have the good sense to determine whether the house is on fire or it is a false alarm.
Lets say that I pass by your house. The sun is reflecting in the windows so that it appears to be on fire. I call 911.
The fire department screams on the scene, chops a hole in your roof, pumps in 10,000 gallons of water, breaks down all doors, turns everything upside down and inside out looking for a “victim”, declares the house to be unsafe (of course it is after they ruined it) thus making it against the law for you to return to it..................and six months later tells you that your house was not on fire and you can go back in the house.
This is essentially what the state of TX is doing to these families. By the time all of this brute force is over, these families will be emotionally wrecked just as the house was in my fictional illustration.
Ah, but you say they already had problems.
They did not know they had problems. They were happy in their own way. Who are we to say “You are not happy and I am going to change that!”?
If they are going to prosecute for polygamy, so be it. But the children should not be separated from their mothers, put in foster homes, persons held in detention without trial, etc.
All on the basis of a crank phone call.
Well go-llee, you don’t say, the state was wrong about her age? And they told her to either live under their supervision, or leave without her children? Wow, who’d have thought that would happen.
I live in Fresno and this is true all over the U.S. - that there are older guys running around having sex with a pile of teenage girls and babies are being born or aborted. I guess technically that’s not polygamy but everyone knows it’s wrong. I guess it’s not against the law but everyone knows it’s wrong. Why did the authorities go after these poor slobs with such a vengeance? Like all of a sudden they care about the children? Something is horribly wrong with this picture. You can’t throw the Constitution out the window just because you don’t like someone’s life style. No, I don’t make excuses for the creepy men in FLDS who are having sex with little girls. It’s disgusting, wrong, and against the law. But you can’t just bust into their homes, rip their kids away from their mothers, and dump the kids in foster homes - all because of a false report. Not every FLDS woman is guilty; and not every FLDS man is guilty; and for sure the kids did nothing wrong. There was no due process.
Have you ever been wrong about anything? (I have). Does that make you or I suspect on everything we do? You should be applauding them for admitting they were wrong.
susie
The only issue however with CPS is child safety. If each family had been monogamous it would not have made a difference. CPS removes kids from single home environments that they consider dangerous too. We need to stay focused IMO. It's about the kids.
And, please explain (I’ve asked you this before) how the state could investigate the case and get evidence to charge the men without taking the kids into custody, especially when at least many of the women were lying. I don’t expect you to answer, but I’ll keep asking as long as you keep wondering why the men weren’t rounded up.
susie
You're correct, of course ... FLDS.
And just after I posted that I read this.
Aaaarrrrggghhhh !!!!
I wish I had a nickel for every time I’ve been wrong; I’d be rich! Yes, I am thrilled CPS admitted they were wrong in this case.
Ha! Thanks for the laugh.
The old saying two wrongs don’t make a right..ya know? This FDLS problem in Texas needs to be addressed. Then I agree, we need to clean the rest of the house and come down on PP, schools and hospitals that do not report under age pregnancies. Parents have also got to be held accountable. I don’t know about you but I’m tired of supporting other peoples kids too.
How long did that take? Three weeks? Unbelievable.
Let me get this straight. If someone is happy marrying their underage daughters into polygamous *spriritual unions* this is ok with you? Luckily, it’s not ok with the State of TX.
I’m going to give you a break and assume you haven’t been keeping up with these threads, and here’s a head’s up. This is not about polygamy. This is about adult men having sex with underage girls. It’s called statutory rape, and it’s illegal.
susie
Have you called CPS about these cases of underage girls having sex with adult men? If not, why not for heaven’s sake?!
susie
Yeah, me too. Unfortunately no one wants to pay me for being wrong!
susie
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