Posted on 05/15/2008 7:37:59 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
AUSTIN - Lawyers for the state conceded in court today that the woman from the polygamist sect who gave birth this week while in the state's custody is not a minor and said she is free to return to her home in West Texas or remain with her three children -- including the newborn -- under protective care.
I can’t imagine anything more horrible than the State trying to separate a newborn from its mother but they sure tried. The only reason it did not happen is that the father got an injunction to prevent it.
The truth about this case probably came to light only because this woman notified the news about her plight.
Wrong in just this one case? Or do you mean all cases? I think I will wait & see but still polygamy is illegal & I think that men involved & mothers who let their daughters be child brides & sister wives have much explaining to do. I want to hear them justify it.
I don't think so. That said though...there is always areas to improvement . Unless there is good reason not to, I would like to see more women with children shelters be provided. Not all get the breaks that this group has received. I would like to see all mothers that run into trouble get to stay with their little one's if possible.
The title is a little confusing. The kids are still wards of the state.
Yes I know & what a mess this is. I really want to hear how polygamy is going to be justified in court, don’t you?
If she’s the “first’ wife this one won’t be so hard. There are going to be some real “head scratchers” coming up though. As you say “what a mess”
"They said I looked like I was under 18," she said.
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“The State was wrong in this case. I wonder what else they are wrong about.”
Yup.
McMartin Preschool anyone?
“I would like to see all mothers that run into trouble get to stay with their little one’s if possible.”
Yep. The mothers are guilty of being ignorant and stupid. I didn’t think you could take children away from mothers for that reason. If they had to round up someone, they should have rounded up the men who are guilty of abusing underage girls if they have proof and due process has been followed.
If she wishes to return to the group, so be it. If she wishes to live in the outside world, so be it.
But the state has absolutely no grounds for holding her or her baby against her will in the absence of proved child abuse.
What others in that sect are doing has no bearing on her rights.
If she is guilty of polygamy, prosecute her for that. But that alone is no reason to hold her in what amounts to imprisonment.
It’s confusing but I’m just glad the mom got to keep her baby. However, if the state has its way, the baby when it’s 12 months will be separated from the mother because the state thinks 12 months is long enough for her to nurse. I guess she is one of the lucky ones because her other children must be under 5. When they turn 5, though, off they go to be dumped in a foster home along with the other poor little rejected kids. This woman will have to face that when the time comes but for now she has her baby to hold close and suckle.
That might lead to more non-conformists and the collapse of the State.
“But the state has absolutely no grounds for holding her or her baby against her will in the absence of proved child abuse.”
Stop it; you’re making sense; can’t have that here; but thanks anyway.
I have been blown away by people defending what TX CPS has done.
I’ve heard people speculate that, en masse, the entire group refused to give any proof to the State of Texas as to the names, ages, parentage, etc of the kids. So, the State took ‘em all out.
Again, if someone mistreated a child, I’m in favor of a public hanging. However, let’s have a proper trial first, okay? What happened to due process?
Ignorant and stupid? . The one’s with the power are neither IMO. The others...well I would prefer to try to help them instead of calling them names.
I think I was wrong about them waiting ‘til the kids were 5 to take them away. I think they take them away when the kids are 12 months. No exceptions.
It's a damned, good think Mike Rivero is no longer posting on FR ... I think I'd be tempted to do something really drastic.
This entire LDS takeover has bothered me since shortly after I found out about the phone call from someone that couldn't be found. Weird or not, the state came in and invaded a ton of people and thoroughly screwed up their lives because someone said so.
Between Wall Street and Congress, our entire nation has been invaded and a whole buncha' tons of people have been thoroughly screwed up ... just because someone says so.
OK ... I'll go take my meds now.
“Dan Jessop, who sought the hearing in Austin on behalf of his wife, Louisa, and their three children, said he viewed the hearing as at least a partial victory. He said he is relieved that his children are being kept together with their mother, and he vowed to continue to seek the full reunification of their family. “
I take from this quote that the mother, at least, has been reunited with her other children, too?
I ask, because last I heard, her other children were spread all over TX.
the parents will all get their day in court if they want it. This group is well lawyered up. Sadly there are many single cases where a mom or dad doesn't have all this media attention and financial support.
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