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Gay marriage legal in California, court declares (Just In)
Sacremento Bee ^ | May 15, 2008 | Crystal Carreon and Bill Lindelof

Posted on 05/15/2008 10:31:42 AM PDT by PROCON

SAN FRANCISCO - A deeply divided California Supreme Court legalized gay marriage in an opinion issued Thursday morning.

Wild cheers echoed throughout City Hall and other spots where proponents had gathered Thursday morning awaiting the opinion, which came on a 4-3 vote.

The case stems from challenges to state law by gay couples who were married in ceremonies at San Francisco City Hall in 2004, when Mayor Gavin Newsom began issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

Legal challenges to those marriages eventually led to the high court invalidating them six months later. California voters already had approved by a wide margin a measure in 2000 that declared marriage to be only between a man and a woman.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
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To: murron

“Anyone with a law degree know what this will mean for the rest of the country?”

I have a law degree (two of them actually), but this is not my area of law. However, under the full faith and credit clause it means (I think) that other states would have to honor gay marriages that were performed in CA.

This is a huge election issue gift that the left just handed us if the republicans play it right. It is huge IMO.


21 posted on 05/15/2008 10:56:02 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: All
2 Peter 2

4 For God did not spare even the angels who sinned. He threw them into hell, in gloomy pits of darkness, where they are being held until the day of judgment.

5 And God did not spare the ancient world—except for Noah and the seven others in his family. Noah warned the world of God’s righteous judgment. So God protected Noah when he destroyed the world of ungodly people with a vast flood.

6 Later, God condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and turned them into heaps of ashes. He made them an example of what will happen to ungodly people.

7 But God also rescued Lot out of Sodom because he was a righteous man who was sick of the shameful immorality of the wicked people around him.

8 Yes, Lot was a righteous man who was tormented in his soul by the wickedness he saw and heard day after day.

9 So you see, the Lord knows how to rescue godly people from their trials, even while keeping the wicked under punishment until the day of final judgment.

10 He is especially hard on those who follow their own twisted sexual desire, and who despise authority

22 posted on 05/15/2008 10:58:27 AM PDT by Ready2go (Isa 5:20 Destruction is certain for those who say that evil is good and good is evil;)
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To: Ready2go

Thank you for the reminder of 2 Peter 2, God will not be mocked!


23 posted on 05/15/2008 11:01:23 AM PDT by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: HwyChile

If McCain plays this right, he can beat the s##t out of Obama with this issue. I am sure Obama will come out with the standard democrat lie/playbook: he personally is against gay marriage but he thinks people should have the right to marry if gay. It is the same playbook the democrats use to get around the aborotion issue, which they are now on the wrong side of. John Kerry would say he is personally pro-life but supported the right of others to have an abortion. A bunch of lying BS.


24 posted on 05/15/2008 11:01:58 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: PROCON
its almost to the point (if it isn't already) that its an embarrassment to be an American anymore.....the world is sitting out there laughing at us. such a shame that it has come to the point in this country that the minority not the majority dictates the laws of society anymore.
25 posted on 05/15/2008 11:02:46 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: mak5
And what about the right to polygamy if that is what people choose?

If the courts follow Lawrence and Goodridge, polygamy will be legalized, and within 3 years.

26 posted on 05/15/2008 11:03:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble (ride 'em like you stole 'em)
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To: tatsinfla

I know what you mean. Look at the idiots that are pushing for global warming reform, which is based off junk science. In this day and age, how can they pull off the lie?

How can the majority think that the democrats are better for the economy? When is high taxes high government spending and regulations good for the economy?


27 posted on 05/15/2008 11:05:37 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: HwyChile

I’ll throw my JD and license into the mix: Full faith and credit will not need to be accorded because of the Defense of Marriage Act that Clinton signed. The obvious vulnerability of DOMA to federal judicial action is why the federal Marriage Amendment was proposed.


28 posted on 05/15/2008 11:10:06 AM PDT by j.havenfarm (Issuing my fatwas from the Holy City of Auburn, California.)
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To: PROCON

Naw, judges don’t matter...conservatives should just sit it out this November rather than vote for that stinker McCain.../sarcasm


29 posted on 05/15/2008 11:10:39 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: PROCON

God will NOT be mocked.


30 posted on 05/15/2008 11:10:47 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: HwyChile

My sense is that it gets appealed to the Federal System and that means it goes to the Ninth Circuit which most probably will uphold it and then on to the US Supreme Court. Over its course, there are three to four US Supreme Court justices that may be retiring during that time period so depending on who you vote for, those justices become pretty important. For all of those who are contemplating staying home in November, it’s pretty clear, your abstinence will be a vote for the opposition depending on which side you are on. If you are staying home from the polls in November, you will be casting a ballot in favor of the other side on this issue no matter which side you are on...so VOTE!!! Hold your nose and VOTE!!!!


31 posted on 05/15/2008 11:11:03 AM PDT by johnnycap
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To: safeasthebanks

There has been floating rumors of Huckabee being the VP. A US constitutional amendment has been one of Huckabee’s big issues.

Supposedly this can’t go to the Supremes because this is a state issue. Now Judge Napolitiano was saying something about that the CA Supreme Court could also shoot down the CA constitutional amendment, it has to be a US one.


32 posted on 05/15/2008 11:12:31 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: PROCON

All radical muslims are hereby invited to bring their families to beautiful, sunny Keliforrnia. With the recent court ruling on homosexual “marriage,” the already far lower than required population replacement rate of 2.1 kids per white, native born family will now head even lower. (In case you hadn’t noticed, homosexual couples produce very few offsping.)

If you can get to Mexico, don a sombrero, a serape and simply stroll across the unprotected “Bush” border at San Diego. Immediately apply for welfare and get down to the serious business of full time breeding.

Then in 20 years — or less the way things are going out there — you can duke it out with the illegal Mexicans for dominance of the place, thus establishing a perfect springboard for whatever terrorist mischief you care to perpetrate on the rest of the land mass that used to be known as AMERICA.

But by then, you’ll probably not even have to bother because, as we all know, as goes Keliforrnia, so goes the nation.

We’re doomed.


33 posted on 05/15/2008 11:13:33 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: j.havenfarm

Good point. As I said, this is not my area. I am going off what I learned in law school, which was a long time ago and basic.


34 posted on 05/15/2008 11:14:37 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: I still care
While I would like to get a very solid, young conservative as a VP, Huckabee is very articulate and a great speaker/debater (better than Obama IMO) and he could pull in the social conservatives and fire them up. He may not be a bad choice for VP.
35 posted on 05/15/2008 11:17:28 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: PROCON

Courts don’t care about the Constitution. Courts don’t care about the will of the people. Courts don’t care about right and wrong.

Obviously some judges need some reeducation on the Constitution. The court’s job is not to MAKE laws.


36 posted on 05/15/2008 11:18:09 AM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: HwyChile
“Today the California Supreme Court took a giant leap to ensure that everybody- not just in the state of California, but throughout the country- will have equal treatment under the law.” Said city Attorney Dennis Herrera, who argued the case for San Francisco.”

From the AP article. You know this is exactly their intent. This is the basis in which the gay agenda will move their case immediately into all fifty states. If you are legally married in California, and that means married, they will sue in all fifty states to invalidate your laws or even your state constitutional amendments under Federal law. This just cleared the way to go to the Supreme Court to mandate gay marriage the way Lawrence V Texas killed the state's rights to regulate sodomy.
This should be a campaign issue. It does affect everyone.

37 posted on 05/15/2008 11:20:18 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: PROCON

And our glorious leader in the wings, John McCain, refuses to support the Marriage Amendment to the Constitution.


38 posted on 05/15/2008 11:20:57 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: IrishCatholic

I agree. It is their strategy. It is a huge gift to republicans. HUGE!


39 posted on 05/15/2008 11:21:44 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: HamiltonJay

Only one problem - in California, taxpayer money is already being spent on “spousal” benefits for homosexuals.


40 posted on 05/15/2008 11:22:03 AM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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