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To: freedomwarrior998

We can post excerpts from court rulings all day, if you like. It doesn’t seem like such a great idea for your side, though, considering half the posts in this thread are rants against the habit of courts to rule in favor of same-sex marriage.

Here are some excerpts from Goodridge vs. Department of Public Health (the majority opinion):

MARSHALL, C.J. Marriage is a vital social institution. The exclusive commitment of two individuals to each other nurtures love and mutual support; it brings stability to our society. For those who choose to marry, and for their children, marriage provides an abundance of legal, financial, and social benefits. In return it imposes weighty legal, financial, and social obligations. The question before us is whether, consistent with the Massachusetts Constitution, the Commonwealth may deny the protections, benefits, and obligations conferred by civil marriage to two individuals of the same sex who wish to marry. We conclude that it may not. The Massachusetts Constitution affirms the dignity and equality of all individuals. It forbids the creation of second-class citizens. In reaching our conclusion we have given full deference to the arguments made by the Commonwealth. But it has failed to identify any constitutionally adequate reason for denying civil marriage to same-sex couples.

For decades, indeed centuries, in much of this country (including Massachusetts) no lawful marriage was possible between white and black Americans. That long history availed not when the Supreme Court of California held in 1948 that a legislative prohibition against interracial marriage violated the due process and equality guarantees of the Fourteenth Amendment, Perez v. Sharp, 32 Cal. 2d 711, 728 (1948), or when, nineteen years later, the United States Supreme Court also held that a statutory bar to interracial marriage violated the Fourteenth Amendment, Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967).[16] As both Perez and Loving make clear, the right to marry means little if it does not include the right to marry the person of one’s choice, subject to appropriate government restrictions in the interests of public health, safety, and welfare. See Perez v. Sharp, supra at 717 (”the essence of the right to marry is freedom to join in marriage with the person of one’s choice”). See also Loving v. Virginia, supra at 12. In this case, as in Perez and Loving, a statute deprives individuals of access to an institution of fundamental legal, personal, and social significance — the institution of marriage — because of a single trait: skin color in Perez and Loving, sexual orientation here. As it did in Perez and Loving, history must yield to a more fully developed understanding of the invidious quality of the discrimination.[17]

The Massachusetts Constitution protects matters of personal liberty against government incursion as zealously, and often more so, than does the Federal Constitution, even where both Constitutions employ essentially the same language. See Planned Parenthood League of Mass., Inc. v. Attorney Gen., 424 Mass. 586, 590 (1997); Corning Glass Works v. Ann & Hope, Inc. of Danvers, 363 Mass. 409, 416 (1973). That the Massachusetts Constitution is in some instances more protective of individual liberty interests than is the Federal Constitution is not surprising. Fundamental to the vigor of our Federal system of government is that “state courts are absolutely free to interpret state constitutional provisions to accord greater protection to individual rights than do similar provisions of the United States Constitution.” Arizona v. Evans, 514 U.S. 1, 8 (1995).[18]

The individual liberty and equality safeguards of the Massachusetts Constitution protect both “freedom from” unwarranted government intrusion into protected spheres of life and “freedom to” partake in benefits created by the State for the common good. See Bachrach v. Secretary of the Commonwealth, 382 Mass. 268, 273 (1981); Dalli v. Board of Educ., 358 Mass. 753, 759 (1971). Both freedoms are involved here. Whether and whom to marry, how to express sexual intimacy, and whether and how to establish a family — these are among the most basic of every individual’s liberty and due process rights. See, e.g., Lawrence, supra at 2481; Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833, 851 (1992); Zablocki v. Redhail, 434 U.S. 374, 384 (1978); Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, 152-153 (1973); Eisenstadt v. Baird, 405 U.S. 438, 453 (1972); Loving v. Virginia, supra. And central to personal freedom and security is the assurance that the laws will apply equally to persons in similar situations. “Absolute equality before the law is a fundamental principle of our own Constitution.” Opinion of the Justices, 211 Mass. 618, 619 (1912). The liberty interest in choosing whether and whom to marry would be hollow if the Commonwealth could, without sufficient justification, foreclose an individual from freely choosing the person with whom to share an exclusive commitment in the unique institution of civil marriage.


511 posted on 05/16/2008 10:39:40 AM PDT by TraditionalistMommy
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To: TraditionalistMommy

From the little that I’ve read of this thread, you seem to have introjected your opinions quite frequently and vehemently, whether comments were addressed to you or not.

If I had to take a guess, I would say that you are neither a “traditionalist” nor a “mommy”. LOL.


512 posted on 05/16/2008 10:44:34 AM PDT by khnyny (Hillary is the national equivalent of Tracy Flick)
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To: TraditionalistMommy
We can post excerpts from court rulings all day, if you like. It doesn’t seem like such a great idea for your side, though, considering half the posts in this thread are rants against the habit of courts to rule in favor of same-sex marriage.

Actually we can't. You can only post two, both 4-3, one from Ultra-Left MA the Other from Ultra-Left Kalifornia, both based solely on a very "unique" interpretation of very expansive equal protection clauses in the respective STATE Constitutions.

By contrast, I can post decisions from MN, IN, AZ, NY, WA, KY, NJ, the D.C. Court of Appeals, the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, a Federal District Court in Florida and a SUMMARY DECISION OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT, as well as the explicit Constitutional Provisions of no less than 27 States.

FYI: The Binding FEDERAL case law, the case which establishes FEDERAL Constitutional law in this regard is the UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT summary decision in Baker v. Nelson 409 U.S. 810 (1972).

You can't trump that one, because it is the law of the land.

540 posted on 05/16/2008 3:29:41 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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