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To: William Tell; hiredhand
I would still like to hear in what way our nation will be better off with the Democrats winning rather than McCain?

It probably wont be 'better off' regardless...

Im at peace with my decision, from the heart...

You are welcome to intellectualize your way the polls and live in fear of the outcome...

In God I Trust...

We have a better Supreme Court under Bush than we would have had under the alternatives. Do you not agree with that?

Heller wouldnt have made a bit of diff, even with meyers on the bench...theyre gonna 'give' us an individual right that will be open for 'reasonable' restriction...precedecnt set FOR INFRINGEMENT...

you call that 'better' ???

I believe that the economic issues will sort themselves out, though painfully. Government entitlements, whether for you and me or for illegal immigrants are going to be dramatically reduced in the coming decades. There just won't be a choice.

IMO this whole line of reasoning is wishful thinking...

'entitlements' are growing exponentially, more revenue is all thats needed for them to be successful.../sarc...

I have ZERO faith that any of the three will alter this course of vote buying with the treasury...

What I worry about are the social issues that make us free and prosperous. Strong families, economic incentives to work hard and defer gratification, and the right to keep and bear arms to discourage tyranny. The Democrats seem to hate everything which has made this nation great.

the social and economic cannot be separated in the welfare [socialist/tyranny] state...

weve missed that boat again in regards to 'deterring' tyranny...we will be forced to defeat it, once the ruling class decides to 'make it official'... [maybe?] we will gitRdone...

ONLY if we quit worrying about the endless possibilities of the lesser than, and start concentrating on the Almighty God and His 'Greater Than'...In God We Trust[ed] and prospered...In gov [man] we trust and get screwed every time...

154 posted on 05/16/2008 5:39:23 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (vote for satan's little brother, he is the 'lesser' of three evils.../sarc...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Gilbo_3
...and so on one side of the isle, we have the worrying, hand-wringers, vainly hoping that the lesser of two evils is better than the worst.

...and on the other side we have ourselves who have determined to abandon them all to God and simply do what's right.

Something about this concept is difficult for GOP diehards. I don't get it, but they sure do stumble on it.
155 posted on 05/16/2008 5:44:31 AM PDT by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: Gilbo_3
Gilbo_3 said: " ... theyre gonna 'give' us an individual right that will be open for 'reasonable' restriction ..."

I'm no expert in what would constitute a "non-fundamental" individual right. To suggest that our Founders included such a right in the Bill of Rights seems nonsensical to me.

The Heller decision may be able to side-step the issue of what level of scrutiny is required by recognizing that NO standard would permit outlawing of handguns for law-abiding individuals. If the right is "fundamental", then strict scrutiny applies and the standard of "reasonableness" is off the table. The burden would shift to government to justify any restrictions, most of which would constitute "infringement".

We have to look to Roberts to eliminate from the Heller majority decision anything which would act to diminish the right. The commies on the Court are in a bind. They can't suggest outlawing arms because somebody might get hurt, while protecting the penumbra of abortion, allowing forty million of the unborn to be killed.

If the Heller decision is flawed, and if the names of Roberts, Alito, Scalia, or Thomas are on the decision, then I could join some of you who just don't care which party wins. I am far from that point right now.

A healthy decision in Heller could constitute absolute proof that it does matter which party wins in Novemeber.

158 posted on 05/16/2008 9:18:50 AM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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