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Karl "The Architect" Rove: The GOP Must Stand for Something
WSJ ^ | May 15th, 2008 | Karl Rove

Posted on 05/14/2008 9:31:24 PM PDT by The_Republican

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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“The string of defeats should cure Republicans of the habit of simply shouting “liberal! liberal! liberal!” in hopes of winning an election.”

Hell, that’s a bragging point and battle cry for some, like Tom Davis, who think they’re losing elections because they aren’t far enough left!

And to think, they’re considering replacing Cole with Davis as the NRCC chairman.


81 posted on 05/15/2008 3:26:40 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: The_Republican

Uh... and then there’s immigration ‘reform,’ Carl. Remember that?


82 posted on 05/15/2008 3:39:42 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: The_Republican
Democrats pulled off the win by smartly nominating a conservative, Travis Childers, from a rural swing part of the district who disavowed Barack Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and hit Mr. Davis from the right.

Karl, with all due respect, maybe there is a big lesson in this for the GOP.

83 posted on 05/15/2008 4:04:46 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: eyedigress

Yeah, there was a dog trapped in that car, too, and it went down with the bridge.


84 posted on 05/15/2008 4:06:41 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Richard Kimball

WOW! Outstanding recital of the facts as they relate to where we are all at now! This should be posted on every McCain/GOP thread.


85 posted on 05/15/2008 4:12:29 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Richard Kimball
Fine rant you had there. You have voiced the anguish of many. The country has taken a HUGE lurch to the left. Republicans have moved beyond JFK to FDR's position and the Dems have gone to the left of Jerry Brown, who used to be considered in moonbat country.
Why has this happened? In a phrase, the chickens have come home to roost. Several generations of children have grown up under the influence of liberal teachers, celebrities, and newscasters... the stewards of our impressionable minds. McCarthy saw this coming and was turned aside.
Come November, we will be a socialist nation and in a generation or so, we will be no different than England.
Thanks, Karl and the RNC.
86 posted on 05/15/2008 4:32:41 AM PDT by ArtDodger (Re-read Animal Farm (with your kids))
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To: The_Republican
Bottom line....We were used folks..

..used real good by this so called magnificent pejorative

..and now FOX is parading him day & night to chastise the base for defecting.

GO POUND SAND, KARL!

87 posted on 05/15/2008 4:43:01 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Richard Kimball

Wish I had said that... ; )


88 posted on 05/15/2008 4:57:08 AM PDT by dubyagee (Thrilled to be here...)
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To: The_Republican

IMHO, would’nt matter. In my mind, I keep coming back to what happened to Tom Delay.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802383/posts

Washington is so jammed with parasites looking for a teat...that ANY organized opposition-IOW any Conservatives-will be run out of town . Period. This, folks, is a far BIGGER problem than just one with the Republican leadership.


89 posted on 05/15/2008 4:57:33 AM PDT by mo
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To: The_Republican

there’s also the profound feeling based on the reality of neighborhoods filling up with illegals that the republicans are selling out the country.


90 posted on 05/15/2008 5:34:58 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: The_Republican

Karlos “LaRaza” Rove huh!? Amazingly stupid. Crawl back under your rock. Blackbird.


91 posted on 05/15/2008 6:18:47 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (2008 Election: Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest!)
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To: The_Republican

Karl “The Wrecking Ball” Rove suffers from cockiness.


92 posted on 05/15/2008 7:04:25 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: cowdog77

>How did we get to such a dismal selection?

You can thank rove, who championed abandoning all principles for short term electoral gain.


93 posted on 05/15/2008 12:07:00 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy
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To: Richard Kimball

Awesome post. The one thing that I would add to it is the importance (at least it was for me) of the Harriet Miers fiasco. Just like the Democrats are starting to realize that we were right all along about the Clintons, the Harriet Miers thing sure made it appear that they were at least a little bit correct about W’s administration being full of crony’s and partonage.


94 posted on 05/15/2008 12:11:21 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy
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To: Richard Kimball

Great post. I think you can add to the list the most recent policy of hyperinflation and deliberate distortion of true inflation statistics in order to bail out a banking system that pays its own executives and traders enormous bonuses while driving the banking system and the country into third-world impoverishment.


95 posted on 05/18/2008 8:37:21 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Ron Jeremy
The one thing that I would add to it is the importance (at least it was for me) of the Harriet Miers fiasco

You need to think hard about that one. Miers was not an atypical Bush appointee. Personal loyalty counted for far more than intellectual astuteness, experience running things and energy of execution in all of his appointees. We came together to make a fuss about Miers, but a large number of his other appointments are equally uninspiring.

96 posted on 05/18/2008 9:15:31 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson; Ron Jeremy
There are a laundry list of issues; the ones you've both brought up were also significant.

What was most frustrating is that many of these situations were unforced errors, and almost seemed designed to alienate part of the base. Many of them also seemed to be designed by Democrat strategists. Could you have come up with a more effective ad campaign for Republican largess than the "bridge to nowhere?" Were there any two things that could have undercut the security issue more than southern open borders and the Dubai ports deal?

The Harriet Miers thing only blew over because Miers pulled herself from contention. With both Dubai and Miers, Bush put the Republicans in the very uncomfortable position of having to fight their own party leadership. OTOH, on spending, it was a congressional thing and Bush went along.

Unfortunately, the horse is out of the barn, now, and I don't think there's much Republicans can do to prevent a blood bath this fall.

Here's what we SHOULD have done:

1. Reign in spending. Freeze entitlements and let economic growth help reduce their impact on the total budget. We should have reduced taxes instead of giving earmarks to industries.

2. Continue to push for personal retirement accounts. The GenX and Yers would have loved this. Keep the commitment to the older people who are too vested in SS to get out.

3. Enforce existing laws on immigration while pushing for more realistic visa policies. IMHO, the refusal to enforce existing laws created a huge backlash by the base. A push for more visas for legal immigrants would have gone a long way towards picking up the hispanic vote.

4. I wouldn't scrap free trade, but I would have gone back to Reagan's policies of watching what other countries were doing, and when they were engaging in dumping policies to kill US industries (basically violating US anti-trust laws), enacted tariffs, as Reagan did on Japanese motorcycles when they were trying to kill HD.

5. Most social conservatives don't want a "Theocracy" as many claim, they're simply tired of the government mandating immorality. I would do whatever I could to stop the alienation of the Boy Scouts and other morally straight organizations.

The Republicans have a problem in that Democrats will continue to vote in individuals no matter how crooked. William Jefferson and Barney Frank are still in office, despite Jefferson being caught red-handed with bribes and Frank was found to have an underaged male prostitution ring running out of his office.

While conservatives shouldn't go that far, we have to quit throwing people overboard because someone makes a charge against them.

97 posted on 05/18/2008 9:35:17 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
Note: this topic is from May 14th, 2008. Thanks The_Republican. ...in Mississippi. Greg Davis (for whom I campaigned and who was a well-qualified candidate) narrowly lost a special congressional election in a district President George W. Bush carried four years ago with 62% of the vote. Democrats pulled off the win by smartly nominating a conservative, Travis Childers, from a rural swing part of the district who disavowed Barack Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and hit Mr. Davis from the right... the GOP can't take "safe" seats for granted when Democrats run conservatives who distance themselves from their national party leaders. The string of defeats should cure Republicans of the habit of simply shouting "liberal! liberal! liberal!" in hopes of winning an election. They need to press a reform agenda full of sharp contrasts with the Democrats.

98 posted on 04/30/2011 6:16:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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