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McCain outlines vision of Iraq victory, reduced partisanship
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/14/08 | Glen Johnson - ap

Posted on 05/14/2008 9:20:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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"I will respect the responsibilities the Constitution and the American people have granted Congress," the senator said, "and will, as I often have in the past, work with anyone of either party to get things done for our country."

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He will Respect the Constitution? LOLOL

1 posted on 05/14/2008 9:20:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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and I have no doubt he will work with anyone.. anyone..


2 posted on 05/14/2008 9:22:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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I know it’s not popular here, but if all he did for illegals was give them a better guest worker program, I’d be fine with it — so long as they had to go home first, and others waiting in line got to use the new program first.


3 posted on 05/14/2008 9:23:53 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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.....and if they went back to Mexico once the harvest ended. (fat chance)


4 posted on 05/14/2008 9:25:03 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (McCain......Obama......Hillary......in a nation of 300 million people, is this the best we can do?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I hear what you are saying, however, that ain’t what was or likely will be proposed next time is my hunch, and there will be a next time.


5 posted on 05/14/2008 9:26:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I want some of whatever this author was smokin’...


6 posted on 05/14/2008 9:33:29 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: NormsRevenge

Like it or not, this vision is worlds better than what we’d get from Barry O.


7 posted on 05/14/2008 9:36:51 PM PDT by Antoninus (Siblings are the greatest gift parents give their children.)
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His vision is so much hot air, imo.

Methinks many here willfully confuse a mirage with a vision.


8 posted on 05/14/2008 9:40:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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His vision is so much hot air, imo.

Methinks many here willfully confuse a mirage with a vision.


9 posted on 05/14/2008 9:40:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Why? I know people from India, Pakistan, Costa Rica, and other nations who are highly educated, highly skilled, English-speaking, and anxious to assimilate and be a part of this country. Why do they have to wait in line behind a bunch of illiterate, unskilled, uneducated peasants (many of whom don't speak English) who bring NOTHING to our economy? We have more than enough native-born idiots to do whatever unskilled work we require. We have prisons full of otherwise worthless losers who would pick lettuce if the choice were work or starvation. There is no shortage of them.

IF we're to import workers, why not educated, skilled workers who want to be part of America? We could even use the resultant brain-drain to a strategic advantage. China can't conquer space without engineers, and Iran can't build a bomb without physicists.

10 posted on 05/14/2008 9:51:19 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Forget about it, McRino. I don't vote for ecofascists.)
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We don’t have enough ignorant people here who want to do the unskilled jobs.

Our current unemployment is around 8 million.

There are an estimated minimum of 12 million illegals.

So even presuming the 8 million unemployed would do menial labor, which is most certainly not the case, if you got rid of 12 million illegals, you’d have 4 million unskilled jobs unfilled.

We could raise the pay until it inticed people into the work force, but then you’d pay double for your big mac, and it wouldn’t be worth it.

A good guest worker program would provide openings for all people, and would emphasize getting people skilled in the jobs we have, and also ensure that people who came also left when the job was done.

As to skilled labor, we have a lot of skilled labor already in this country, many of whom are having trouble getting jobs as they are being shipped oversea. I’m wary of agreeing that we need to import a lot more skilled workers, until I’m more certain we have given citizens who ahve those skills a shot at the jobs.


11 posted on 05/14/2008 9:56:58 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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That’s been the problem, the initial proposals and explanations have always been a little more palatable than what actually made it into the legislation.

It’s why people like me who were in the center on the issue ended up being staunch supporters of the anti-illegal movement. The Senate bill was crap.


12 posted on 05/14/2008 9:58:33 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NormsRevenge

“I will respect the responsibilities the Constitution”

Following McCain/Feingold...can’t say he doesn’t have ba!!s.


13 posted on 05/14/2008 10:29:58 PM PDT by Grunthor (Of two evils, choose neither - Charles Spurgeon)
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"I'm not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end. We belong to different parties, not different countries," McCain says in remarks prepared for delivery in the capital city of Ohio, a general election battleground

Sorry, John, but the Democrats play to win. They will roll over you and not look back. Other than their tired rhetoric, they really have no desire to play nice.

And you're a wimp.

14 posted on 05/14/2008 10:30:06 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy - Codename -> "Bobber")
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To: NormsRevenge

Everyone here knows exactly who and exactly what that backstabbing creep is. About half of us are actively lying to ourselves that once rewarded with the Presidency, “why...he wouldn’t stab us in the back AGAIN.....would he?”


15 posted on 05/14/2008 10:32:01 PM PDT by Grunthor (Of two evils, choose neither - Charles Spurgeon)
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We don’t have enough ignorant people here who want to do the unskilled jobs.

You err by taking "want" into account. We have hordes of worthless losers who are in prison or are 6th generation welfare recipients. I propose they work or they starve.

16 posted on 05/14/2008 10:41:50 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: Grunthor

tagline change


17 posted on 05/14/2008 10:42:24 PM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I have a guest worker plan, too. At harvest time, put all able-bodied American citizens to work. To fill in the gaps, all Americans imprisoned for non-violent drug use would get the chance to work off their sentences, saving our taxdollars to house and feed them.

Such a creative idea would be too far-reaching an idea for the stupid and appallingly lazy crew in Congress, of course. Isn't its approval rating in the same category as that of GWB? Where's the driveby with that statistic?

Regards . . . Penny

18 posted on 05/15/2008 12:03:18 AM PDT by Penny
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Interesting idea, to use prison labor.

I think prison labor is already used in some states, maybe in most, to do state maintenance items.


19 posted on 05/15/2008 5:06:14 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NormsRevenge
McLame, Iraq is already being won as is Afghanistan and it's the “bipartisan” RINOs like you that is destroying this nation. There should be no compromising on being right. The fact that high gas prices are because we don't produce our own supplies and are at the mercy of foreign suppliers is a fact and all the “conservation” in the world will not change that fact nor will it be the cure for the ailment.
20 posted on 05/15/2008 6:19:39 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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