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The lesson for Republicans: They didn’t learn the lesson of 2006 (RINOs destroying the party)
Hot Air ^ | 10/14/2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 05/14/2008 6:43:50 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: ncalburt
Stop living in fantasy world and deal with the real world. Your never getting rid of the K street lobbyists who finance everything in both parties or the mass media the dem party owns and operates. Its strategy that wins in DC not fantasy land , “I am sitting this one out and we will win real big next time”. You win by playing for keeps .

You are absolutely correct!

The Democrats made a point in stressing that the Democrat who won in Miss. represented that Districts values-which meant Conservative.

You have to allow each District to pick a Representative that represents them, including moderate Republicans.

Then, you have to elect a truly CONSERVATIVE Speaker, not a compromiser like Newt or Hastert.

But most importantly, the House must represent the People, which means sometimes resisting the President.

Clinton destroyed his Party's majority by demanding it do his bidding and Bush has destroyed his own as well.

The GOP must develop a national identity of limited Government, which includes limiting spending and securing our borders.

However, I do not think the leadership of the GOP will ever do so, so a 3rd Party alternative may be the only option.

81 posted on 05/14/2008 10:24:48 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: rockinqsranch
I’ll hope to be around by then to see if we can get America back.

Me too. If not, I will leave it to my three conservative children to carry on. I am impressed by many in their generation.

82 posted on 05/14/2008 10:25:42 PM PDT by upsdriver (the maverick upsdriver is writing in Duncan Hunter for president)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
 Childers is a conservative Democrat and ran to the right of Davis.  Not unlike the crop of new Dems in 2006, with one difference.  The 1st congressional district is highly conservative.

I might note that since 1964, 44 years ago, only one Democrat has won a majority of votes for POTUS, and that putz was thankfully a one term wonder.

83 posted on 05/14/2008 10:36:23 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but deep down inside I feel it has been George W Bush's mission to derail, if not destroy, the conservative movement in the Republican party so he can ramrod his leftist agenda though congress. Conservatives will never go along on his amnesty for illegals and his global warming beliefs. To me, Bush is a moderate Democrat, not a Republican....Now we are about turn the reins over to John McCain.....God help us!
84 posted on 05/14/2008 10:48:08 PM PDT by GeeMoney (Hey Obama, it's God BLESS America!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Those bozos are going to lose big. The GOP needs a wake up call and since it hasn't changed direction, voters will deliver the message in November.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

85 posted on 05/14/2008 10:55:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: processing please hold
if its merely a matter of a "D" or an "R" behind their name, why do we care if all govts are just made up of Rats?....

well ..you know why and so do all freepers.....for the worthless sh*p that this present Pub Congress/Senate/Presidency has brought us, it also brought us a few good judges....

and judges is where its all at...

if the Pubs don't put up some defense, I hesitate to think what the Rats will pull off....immediate national health insurance, gun control, the "fairness" doctrine, etc.....

there is lots at stake here....

we've had dark days before.....Clinton rode in with a Rat Senate and House.....we defeated that and we can do it again...

86 posted on 05/14/2008 11:37:04 PM PDT by cherry
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To: processing please hold
"I agree with your post 100%. That wrong direction is leading them right over the cliff."

and they are taking us with them, lock, stock and barrel....

WAKE UP people....so we don't like McCain....the elites pushed him on us....it doesn't matter...

if McCain wins...and I think he will..or Barry or Hitlery....if we don't have a modicum of Pub presence in the House and Senate, we will face horrors that will never be fixed....

complain , complain, complain, but for Gods' sake ....DO THE RIGHT THING when it comes to November...

87 posted on 05/14/2008 11:43:07 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
and to add....as much as I am usually accused of being a Mormon hater, Mitt Romney can become the next Reagan....he has the message....he has the character...he has the stature...he has the voice....he has the guts....and he has the intelligence to actually state his opinions rather well.....

he is not perfect...he has "history"...so did Reagan...the greatest president in my life....

so yes...there are good people waiting in the wings....we just need to keep our selves in the game.....

88 posted on 05/14/2008 11:58:25 PM PDT by cherry
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To: hinckley buzzard

“We used to call them “Bob Michel” republicans, after a GOP senator who spent a whole long career as minority leader and never so much as caused a ripple while the ‘rats did whatever they pleased..”

No offense, but Bob Michel was in the house, not the senate. Otherwise, a very good point.


89 posted on 05/15/2008 12:24:29 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: cherry

You don’t need to worry about us not voting, (other than McCain) but the GOP is like the Washington Generals against the Harlem Globe Trotters. “Gee, we lost again. How’d that happen?” Wink wink...


90 posted on 05/15/2008 12:27:11 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: imahawk
Hey Airborne, whats the hold up?

I HATE the thought of leaving the country in the hands of Obama and company.

The troops deserve better.

91 posted on 05/15/2008 4:40:36 AM PDT by airborne (LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
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To: airborne

I agree the troops deserve better.The country deserves better as well and we will not get it if we dont do something about the cesspool called washington real soon.Any one of the three will sell this country out.Its just a matter of when, not if.


92 posted on 05/15/2008 4:44:25 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: imahawk

McCain or Obama.

It’s beginning to look like a choice between a slow spiral into hell or a nose dive.


93 posted on 05/15/2008 4:49:37 AM PDT by airborne (LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
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To: SoConPubbie; ncalburt; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; org.whodat; CharacterCounts; ...
Try to be [...etc...etc...and] you'll fit in more easily around here.

SoConPubbie
Since Mar 26, 2007

sam_paine
Since Nov 27, 2000

Thanks for the tips on how I can fit in, and welcome to FR! =)

"Principled" and "pragmatic" are not mutually exclusive qualities in a voter.

They are mutually exclusive in a politician.

Reagan, which we can agree was the greatest president in our lifetimes, cut and ran from from the war on terrorists in Lebanon, and signed real Amnesty into law, and appointed Sandra O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy which became the mushy middle of the supreme court.

Reagan was a pragmatist who spoke eloquently about guiding principles.

94 posted on 05/15/2008 8:50:29 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Boagenes
The Republican Party leaders are arrogant beyond words. It all goes back to the "bridge to nowhere" and the shamnesty debacle. These checked pants, country club, Rockefeller, free trade, open borders, RINOs still don't get it. They don't understand the anger and the fury from the base. They still don't see what has done this to the party.

Exactly right - and the exact two issues that caused the problem. Now, angry at being rebuffed, like the old Soviet Union they want to "dissolve the people and elect a new one."

95 posted on 05/15/2008 8:54:05 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: airborne; imahawk
It’s beginning to look like a choice between a slow spiral into hell or a nose dive.

Buckley's famous quote recognized centuries of scholarship on conservatism including Burke etc: 'Standing astride history shouting "Stop!"'

Conservatism has never in history been able to reverse the tide. It has only had moments of victory that has slowed the inevitable advance of pernicious 'progressivism.'

Your revelation, airborne, was constructed in great detail by Russell Kirk's Conservative Mind in 1953.

96 posted on 05/15/2008 9:00:30 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Absolutely nailed it. Great post


97 posted on 05/15/2008 10:30:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: processing please hold
Have you seen this site.

I have now. Thank you. I will look into it.

98 posted on 05/15/2008 5:48:32 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: SoConPubbie

Disrupter alert!


99 posted on 05/15/2008 6:01:12 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: SoConPubbie

btw, good comments.


100 posted on 05/15/2008 6:02:21 PM PDT by apocalypto
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